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Christopher said:
maybe this should be promoted in the Cleaner Times
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http://issuu.com/pccmag/docs/june-july/1

(Before we changed to the name eClean)

Robert Hinderliter's comment about the article (from The Grime Scene)
This article is exactly the reason you should supportyour Trade Magazine Pressure Cleaning Contractor, this article alone is worth the price of membership for a year. If it is not worth the price of asubscription you did not read it!

Allison put a lot of work into this article, this is information you need and it will affect you, like it ornot. If you do nothing then you are supporting the HoustonExample of Criminal Enforcement against Cosmetic PowerWash Contract Cleaners. Other municipalities are attending these meeting to review the results ofHouston! I thought this was so importantthat the article should be shared with the Entire Industry.
 
What I meant was placing an ad in the magazine talking about how much Ron and Doug helped with the Houston issue and if they were on the UAMCC BOD at the time, that would be a great boost to show how the UAMCC is actually helping contractors and not just talking the talk. If they were not BOD members at the time, it will still show how they supported the UAMCC in their helping of the Houston issues.

Not in competition with the eclean magazine, just talking about placing an ad in there since the pw*a puts an ad in there regularly and says they have been helping the contractors for over 20 years.


Allison Hester said:
http://issuu.com/pccmag/docs/june-july/1

(Before we changed to the name eClean)

Robert Hinderliter's comment about the article (from The Grime Scene)
This article is exactly the reason you should supportyour Trade Magazine Pressure Cleaning Contractor, this article alone is worth the price of membership for a year. If it is not worth the price of asubscription you did not read it!

Allison put a lot of work into this article, this is information you need and it will affect you, like it ornot. If you do nothing then you are supporting the HoustonExample of Criminal Enforcement against Cosmetic PowerWash Contract Cleaners. Other municipalities are attending these meeting to review the results ofHouston! I thought this was so importantthat the article should be shared with the Entire Industry.
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Christopher said:
What I meant was placing an ad in the magazine talking about how much Ron and Doug helped with the Houston issue and if they were on the UAMCC BOD at the time, that would be a great boost to show how the UAMCC is actually helping contractors and not just talking the talk. If they were not BOD members at the time, it will still show how they supported the UAMCC in their helping of the Houston issues.

Not in competition with the eclean magazine, just talking about placing an ad in there since the pw*a puts an ad in there regularly and says they have been helping the contractors for over 20 years.
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Thanks Chris.

I did want to make sure that it was known we did cover the Houston topic and that it was an article that both sides helped with and greatly supported.
 
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Allison Hester said:
Thanks Chris. Didn't mean to get my feathers ruffled!

I did want to make sure that it was known we did cover the Houston topic and that it was an article that both sides helped with and greatly supported.

As for the Cleaner Times ad, my guess is that would be outside of the UAMCC budget.
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It's a great idea but cleaner times doesn't even have the subscribers.

The new enviro team at the UAmCc is like no other.


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I'd actually prefer, at this point, the less talk about Houston the better.


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I just think it is I interesting that Robert would come and make accusations, and then leave and not answer the reasonable questions that were asked. Actually, it is more troubling than anything.
As for putting an ad in Cleaner Times, I wouldn't hold my breath. They are pretty tight with Robert and the PWNA.
 
I wonder if there is a way to keep someone......from posting for a few days or more per week then go back to normal, that would be interesting and very funny!

I know you guys know who I am talking about. hahahahaha
 
Scott Stone said:
I just think it is I interesting that Robert would come and make accusations, and then leave and not answer the reasonable questions that were asked. Actually, it is more troubling than anything.
As for putting an ad in Cleaner Times, I wouldn't hold my breath. They are pretty tight with Robert and the PWNA.
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It will never Happen
 
Tony Shelton said:
Since I brought a witness with me to the meeting I won't even bother commenting on what transpired but will let Jill's report speak for itself. This is the text of the report Jill sent to the UAMCC for review by the Environmental team:

Las Vegas Nevada, UAMCC Nevada State Environmental Director Jillian Shelton
LAS VEGAS VALLEY NPDES STORMWATER DISCHARGE PERMIT
FEBRUARY 08, 2013
10:00A.M.
Report:
This meeting the agenda was gone over quickly and there was nothing in the agenda that directly affected
our industry.
A high up authority, who's name we didn't get, from the State of Nevada was in attendance and most of the
meeting consisted of asking questions of him.
They discussed the cost of cleaning SD inlets. Which brought to mind the idea to make some material
showing how precleaning by power washers reduces the the debris in the SD.
They discussed their TV marketing campaign and were trying to get something going to get people to stop
landscapers from blowing leaves and cigarette butts into the SD inlet.
The Gentleman from the state of Nevada spoke about a lot of things that had nothing to do with us. He did
mention something about an EPA requirement for Phase II to do something that the state could actually
"use their discretion" . We were unclear about what he was talking about.
Tony Shelton asked him to clarify. He thought we were just members of the general public so he went on a
few minutes explaining what an NPDES permit was and what Phase II was then he explained that while
some cities DO fall into the category that requires a permit under Phase II, the EPA is actually letting the
state use some discretion as to whether or not they want to permit those cities.
His response was
"What are we going to do, ask the cities if they wan't more regulation?....What are they going to say, sure!
Bring on more regulation?"
So he reported that the State of Nevada will not be requiring any more cities to get permits under Phase II.
The meeting ended.
Tony Shelton introduced Jill Shelton as the Nevada Environmental director of the UAMCC to XXXXXXXXX
and XXXXXXXX (don't know his last name). They already knew Tony. We thanked them for working so well with
private businesses here in Las Vegas and discussed any upcoming future regulations. They said they
haven't been audited in 8 years but they plan on making NO CHANGES unless required by audit in the
future. If that ever happens we will be notified long in advance and we will offer assistance.
Tony also reminded them that in the month of March a group would be coming down with a bunch of reclaim
equipment trying to push our industry off as polluters and possibly lobby for more regulation. They assured
us that there would be no further regulation unless required by an audit. The discussion will not even be on
the table.
End.
Recommendations from this meeting:
We need to emphasize the value we bring by cleaning often and pre*cleaning debris to reduce loading of the
storm drain inlets.
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Just bringing up the post from a month prior to Robert Hinderliter's and Jim Gamble's PWNA garage cleaning event. Notice. One month before the event, there were NO Plans to change the Las Vegas BMP's.
 
Because of the interference and 400+ pages of emails between the PWNA environmental team consisting of Robert Hinderliter, Jim Gamble, and others I am now having to meet with our local regulators to provide input on the new BMP's which are having to be rewritten.

Amazing how things can change in just a few months.

You are next. Whoever your are. Wherever you are.

As long as you keep thinking it's beneficial to join any org just for networking and promotion your are buying into your own demise.

The money you spend to join or re-up your PWNA membership is used to fund your own destruction.

We have sent the PWNA all the emails, all the details, and they have known all about what Robert and Jim did here for months. Yet they are both still representing the PWNA in an environmental capacity.

Buyer beware.
 
John T must consider the whole country his local area. This damage was done in Las Vegas by John from New York, Jim from California, and Robert from Texas - to the exclusion of myself and other local contractors here in Las Vegas.

Apparently Las Vegas is "local' for them.


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The insanity, mis-direction and mis-communication is still happening and sucking in weak minded people like always.

Thanks for reporting the Truth Tony!

It is much appreciated!
 
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