I thought Tony was always right.......

I don't have anymore desire to converse with Michael on this matter. Shelly was right about him the day I met him and I should have listened to her, but I like to give everybody a chance. So the paragraphs below are for everyone else.

Michael is absolutely right about one thing. I have been a jackass since my stroke and the subsequent problem I had last winter caused by complications from the stroke.

I've been an ass because I realized I've spent the past 30 years thinking only about making money and getting my family ahead.

I wasted the first 20 or so years of my life in complete and utter selfishness and while I never spent a day in jail for any of the things I did, God made certain I paid by getting me caught up in something I didn't do and showed me that my life wasn't in my own power. He showed me he could destroy my life or take my freedom anytime he sees fit.

After witnessing the corruption that caused my issue I put it behind me and determined to live a less selfish life, mind my own business and worry about making money for my own family to spend and enjoy.

After my stroke I looked back and wondered "What have I done to make a difference on this earth?" Many people after a stroke might worry about spending more time with their family. I thought about that too, and consequently began to take time off during the summers and spend more spare time with them.

But I'm a little different from most people. I know my family will have eternity to spend together so I don't worry so much about my own family. I cherish the time we have, but I don't have any fear of death for Shelly, my kids or myself because I know the Lord will take care of all of us after this life. That doesn't mean that we sit here and take abuse or threats to our lives, but it does mean that we don't have to focus on what is happening everyday in our own personal lives like it's the last. I don't think any of us will have any regrets when we get to our final destination, I think we will be happy to be with each other forever.

However, our time on earth is short and I am a firm believer we were put here for a reason, not to just hover around our families and spend our lives making more and more money to obtain more and more stuff.

I began to look back on my life and look at ways I could leave the world a better place. I already don't steal, or harm others or any number of other things that are so prevalent in this world, but those are all things that felt, to me, like they are just expected of anyone who professes to be a Christian. After reading through most of the Bible again it just seemed like we are expected to use what we have to make the world a better place rather than just worry about our own income and our own immediate families. Paul could have easily avoided all the trials and tribulations he suffered if he just kept his mouth shut and worried about his own. No, I'm not comparing myself to Paul, but I do think Paul was given to us as an example.

As I was pondering this, I couldn't help but keep going back to the corruption I had witnessed. Some of the so called "bad" people I associated with in my youth had far more integrity than the "authorities" and some of the business people I've come across as an older adult. It seemed that our country was going on a slippery slope where truth, honesty, integrity and overall respect for human life was becoming a thing of the past.

So, I started with things that were already bothering me. I fought for integrity in business practices. I've posted warnings about using the government to strongarm customers into buying products and services. I've posted warnings about giving too much credence to imposters and internet fakes. I quit giving people the benefit of the doubt over and over again and just simply began to call a spade a spade. This has not only been on this board, but elsewhere also.


But the thing that kept nagging in the back of my head was the injustice that happens around us on a daily basis. The injustice I was blind to until my stroke gave me pause. The injustice of thousands languishing in jails and prisons with families on food stamps barely surviving because of some infraction that is legal in one state, illegal in another, or any of a number of FALSE accusations put on them by the police, as happened with me years ago.

I felt I was in a unique position to, if nothing else, UNDERSTAND what those people were going through and try to fight for their rights.

So I engulfed myself in the constitution and American History and found out that this country is NOTHING like the country our forefathers built. It is corrupt to the very core. The people have no idea because they have been dumbed down by the same school system that taught me that everything is OK in this country and we all just need to submit.

I felt like that was my calling. No one else other then Glenn Beck seemed to want to do it. lol. So over the past couple of years I've attended many leadership meetings from huge Republican events to small unannounced gatherings. Our whole family researches candidates and we put our time and money behind the ones who stand for liberty (when that is an option). I have been working towards running for office here to try to make a difference, but I've not quite reached the point where I can be self sustaining while devoting adequate time to represent the people. I'm trying to reach that point and when I do, it will happen.

I'm just sorry it took me so long to realize my clock was ticking.

I am an ass. I use shock value much in the same way a doctor would use the paddles on a dying patient. We, as a nation have sat around and debated and tried to "reach across the table" for my entire lifetime and it hasn't worked. My shock value is attempting to bring some life back into the citizens of this country. We are dead, brothers. We need to come back to life.

It all starts with us individually. It starts by teaching your family to be honest and follow the law (the constitution of the United States and any legal laws that come from it) and be honest in business dealings. It continues by holding others accountable when they do not. That includes relatives, friends and business associates. There are quite a few people in this industry I refuse to have anything to do with because of their corrupt business practices. If we all did that there wouldn't be anywhere they could hide.

If anyone ever thinks I'm doing anything corrupt please let me know. While it might not be intentional I might be doing it out of ignorance and if that is the case, someone needs to let me know!

It goes into the community. You might not be able to have any say about any unjust killings by cops or any other injustice by city councils or other officials in Las Vegas, but you can certainly do something about it in your own town! And if you are a cop you MUST do something about it when you see it in your own precinct!!!

All this talk about my hating cops is garbage. I hate corrupt cops and those who allow them to keep their badges. We should all hate them. They are the agents of the devil among us.

Just because you don't participate in it does it mean you aren't guilty when you allow it to happen and do nothing? There is a reason cowards are put there right along with murders in Revelation 21:8

Revelation 21:8 But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.”


I sat at the funeral of Erik Scott who was gunned down by Las Vegas metro. I saw a tight-knit, law abiding family torn apart while the police made excuses to protect their own. It made me sick. I sat next to a neighbor, a decent 18 yr metro veteran who tried not to be noticed but wanted to pay respects. Yet even they are afraid to come forward for fear of losing their livelihood.

Eventually my activism may cost me everything. But freedom has never been free. And I am not building up treasures here anyway.

I may be an ass. I may be profane at times and harsh with my words. But I am not going to let the rest of my life pass by as an observer.
 
Ok guys , seriously getting personal over Social issues are BS here. Michael Tony's out of line on the post, but you telling a guy he's a Looser when he doesn't pay his Mortgage. You do not know the situation, Plus I'm sorry to inform you that most people took the easy way out and walked from there responsibilities. Trust me I told Tony to many times, he didn't want to file BK and take the easy road.

guess what , he owns his possessions now. Unlike 99% of america, guess what I own all my things too and continue to pay cash when I need anything. Do I drive a Mercedes? I could if I thought it was really worth paying three times for a car that serves the same purpose.

I'll side with Tony on this one, I know Tony's a Bit Crazy and I like him that way. However with that Said Tony's not a public servant and you are, so your behavior is a Bit ridiculous. Maybe you should this twice about baiting people on a message Board, as a peace officer you should be a little more professional.

Really guys please realize the behavior isn't constructive for anyone.
 
You know I read Tony's post. He makes some valid complaints but he's not being fair on some of his remarks and it's upsetting when you know the truth and he doesn't. First of all my uncle was and IAD boss and he did lock up bad cops who did as much as 10 yrs in jail if not more. One of his cases is famous here. Two of my friends and one of them was in my wedding party also went the IAD route and made bosses in there. Good for them.

Me I deal with things differently. I let the Dep't do there job and I would do mine. If that meant helping a dying boy or girl at an accident scene thats what I did. I lost friends from 9-11 including a friend who I use to car pool with when I was in the academy http://longisland.newsday.com/911-anniversary/victims/Thomas-Mingione and our close family friend who I take his only daughter every where Because she is my daughters best friend and her father http://www.nydailynews.com/news/dea...r-flight-253-terrorism-story-article-1.435787 died as well from 9-11.

So for Tony suggesting that all fireman and especially cops are bad people he's dead wrong and he's doing everything I was taught never to do when I was young and going to catholic school. "DO NOT JUDGE OTHERS".

Just because Tony got himself in trouble yrs ago it's now every cop in this country is bad. My friend - hero Tom Mingione who died saving people in 9-11 had to be a bad guy because his job was not turning in bad cops but to keep the citizens safe. So he must have been a bad cop.

Also Tony's picture with his family holding guns and making the insensitive remark insinuating that these kids in CT were killed because they went to public school is just not right. His daughter Faythe who's a sweet heart of a girl having that gun pointed towards a family members head in that picture is disturbing and sad at the same time.

I agree with Mike Pontillo about one clear thing here. Ever since Tony had his stroke he's different. He now hates like no one we seen before on these bulletin boards. His hate factor has skyrocketed and with all that bent up anger and just hating so much he's on track to give himself another stroke.

Not worth it Tony. Your a nice guy in person and me, my wife and Brianna enjoyed spending that day at the Empire State Bldg with you Shelly and Faythe. A day will never forget... But it saddens me to see how much you hate for my fallen brothers and sisters who die every day protecting people and doing there job. If It wasn't for them you would be dealing with MS-13 type gangs and worse and they would just mutilate your whole family because there in the tens of thousands and their crazy.. Stop kidding yourself thinking you can scare these thugs because you own a few guns. They own thousands and there sick and crazy and they'll gut a kid and stuff her back into her mothers gutted abdomen while people like you would be rendered helpless and then you would be next.

Get real Tony and at least give some of these good cops a break. There your last line of defense in this country. As for Mike Pontillo he's a decorated cop who's also a boss and he does his job and the communities especially in your wild west his type is needed cause he keeps the people safe by doing his job.

So be fair and stop hating......everyone. It's not good for your well being as in your mind and your health. Fight the fights that matter. Run for office like you say you want to. Be a civil activist if that's your calling and help ones who you think are wrongly convicted if that makes you feel good but Stop categorizing cops especially as all being bad because they don't work for you who is all about cops screwing up. Your generalize hating is deplorable and sad because deep down inside your not a hate monger that you portray yourself here on PWI.

But you being you, you just can't seem to help yourself because you love hating these good people. You can't do it. Hopefully you never need a fireman or a cop to save your life or a family members life because if that was to happened you will see in the worst way how wrong you were and how hurtful you have been.
Good luck to you.
 
John Tony Didn't start this post
Clean County PW said:
You know I read Tony's post. He makes some valid complaints but he's not being fair on some of his remarks and it's upsetting when you know the truth and he doesn't. First of all my uncle was and IAD boss and he did lock up bad cops who did as much as 10 yrs in jail if not more. One of his cases is famous here. Two of my friends and one of them was in my wedding party also went the IAD route and made bosses in there. Good for them.

Me I deal with things differently. I let the Dep't do there job and I would do mine. If that meant helping a dying boy or girl at an accident scene thats what I did. I lost friends from 9-11 including a friend who I use to car pool with when I was in the academy http://longisland.newsday.com/911-anniversary/victims/Thomas-Mingione and our close family friend who I take his only daughter every where Because she is my daughters best friend and her father http://www.nydailynews.com/news/dea...r-flight-253-terrorism-story-article-1.435787 died as well from 9-11.

So for Tony suggesting that all fireman and especially cops are bad people he's dead wrong and he's doing everything I was taught never to do when I was young and going to catholic school. "DO NOT JUDGE OTHERS".

Just because Tony got himself in trouble yrs ago it's now every cop in this country is bad. My friend - hero Tom Mingione who died saving people in 9-11 had to be a bad guy because his job was not turning in bad cops but to keep the citizens safe. So he must have been a bad cop.

Also Tony's picture with his family holding guns and making the insensitive remark insinuating that these kids in CT were killed because they went to public school is just not right. His daughter Faythe who's a sweet heart of a girl having that gun pointed towards a family members head in that picture is disturbing and sad at the same time.

I agree with Mike Pontillo about one clear thing here. Ever since Tony had his stroke he's different. He now hates like no one we seen before on these bulletin boards. His hate factor has skyrocketed and with all that bent up anger and just hating so much he's on track to give himself another stroke.

Not worth it Tony. Your a nice guy in person and me, my wife and Brianna enjoyed spending that day at the Empire State Bldg with you Shelly and Faythe. A day will never forget... But it saddens me to see how much you hate for my fallen brothers and sisters who die every day protecting people and doing there job. If It wasn't for them you would be dealing with MS-13 type gangs and worse and they would just mutilate your whole family because there in the tens of thousands and their crazy.. Stop kidding yourself thinking you can scare these thugs because you own a few guns. They own thousands and there sick and crazy and they'll gut a kid and stuff her back into her mothers gutted abdomen while people like you would be rendered helpless and then you would be next.

Get real Tony and at least give some of these good cops a break. There your last line of defense in this country. As for Mike Pontillo he's a decorated cop who's also a boss and he does his job and the communities especially in your wild west his type is needed cause he keeps the people safe by doing his job.

So be fair and stop hating......everyone. It's not good for your well being as in your mind and your health. Fight the fights that matter. Run for office like you say you want to. Be a civil activist if that's your calling and help ones who you think are wrongly convicted if that makes you feel good but Stop categorizing cops especially as all being bad because they don't work for you who is all about cops screwing up. Your generalize hating is deplorable and sad because deep down inside your not a hate monger that you portray yourself here on PWI.

But you being you, you just can't seem to help yourself because you love hating these good people. You can't do it. Hopefully you never need a fireman or a cop to save your life or a family members life because if that was to happened you will see in the worst way how wrong you were and how hurtful you have been.
Good luck to you.
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It's not this post Ron but it's all the post Tony starts with how cops are the enemies. He's killing the cops here who do a great job and who also are Powerwashers as well like I was for 17 yrs. It's basically an accumulation of his post.
 
I have read most of Tony's rants on cops. Tony never said (at least I don't think) every cop in America was bad. Like every industry you have good and bad people. Tony feels cops should do their jobs and be held to a higher standard. Cops take an oath to serve and protect. We need police! I think everyone can agree on that. The problem is there are bad apples and tony feels that the good apples should not turn a blind eye on the bad ones. For a cop to bend a small rule is a big deal kinda like a gateway. The bend wil keep getting bigger and more shady things will happen. I know a lot of great cops and a few shady ones So don't take my post as anti LEO but when cops abuse their powers they need to be called out and delt with. This country has lost its moral compass and the cops should set the example of behaviors after all they are the police.
 
Kory said:
I have read most of Tony's rants on cops. Tony never said (at least I don't think) every cop in America was bad. Like every industry you have good and bad people. Tony feels cops should do their jobs and be held to a higher standard. Cops take an oath to serve and protect. We need police! I think everyone can agree on that. The problem is there are bad apples and tony feels that the good apples should not turn a blind eye on the bad ones. For a cop to bend a small rule is a big deal kinda like a gateway. The bend wil keep getting bigger and more shady things will happen. I know a lot of great cops and a few shady ones So don't take my post as anti LEO but when cops abuse their powers they need to be called out and delt with. This country has lost its moral compass and the cops should set the example of behaviors after all they are the police.
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That's exactly right but Tony is not saying that. What he states over and over because of his dislike for cops is that every cop see's other cops do bad things so now he gets it in his head that unless every cops has either reported what they saw or done something about it if they haven't done any of those two things.... Their bad cops. The problem here is assuming every cop see's other cops do bad things as a cop. What that says is he hates cops because if they all have seen other cops do bad things and they have done nothing about then their bad to.... So their all bad.

That's the mind set of a person who has played judge and jury in his head because he is loaded with hatred about something.

Now right in here he is assuming that the people in Mike P.'s town dislike the cops.

He also spewing that cops are the agent of the devil now. He telling ya bad cops that is but he's already said it in other post that all cops are bad because they don't all turn on other cops.

Hate to say this but it looks like Tony is going over the edge. He's cracking right on this forum. His rant and raves are becoming more and more abundant. Apparently he does this in other places as well so he says.

Damn shame. Nice guy who's losing his marbles.
 
RGilliam said:
I thought this was a PowerWash forum anyways, everytime I get on here it's about cop hating?
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This section you can talk about anything, bad cops exist. Good one do also, maybe someone can show is some good cop stuff for Christmas.

Hey that women shot that guy in the theater , she saved lives.

I was impressed with her ability to not unload the clip in the guys chest.






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Clean County PW said:
That's exactly right but Tony is not saying that. What he states over and over because of his dislike for cops is that every cop see's other cops do bad things so now he gets it in his head that unless every cops has either reported what they saw or done something about it if they haven't done any of those two things.... Their bad cops. The problem here is assuming every cop see's other cops do bad things as a cop. What that says is he hates cops because if they all have seen other cops do bad things and they have done nothing about then their bad to.... So their all bad.

That's the mind set of a person who has played judge and jury in his head because he is loaded with hatred about something.

Now right in here he is assuming that the people in Mike P.'s town dislike the cops.

He also spewing that cops are the agent of the devil now. He telling ya bad cops that is but he's already said it in other post that all cops are bad because they don't all turn on other cops.

Hate to say this but it looks like Tony is going over the edge. He's cracking right on this forum. His rant and raves are becoming more and more abundant. Apparently he does this in other places as well so he says.

Damn shame. Nice guy who's losing his marbles.
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John I don't think Tony's lost it, I think he dislikes the way law enforcement has changed.

Here's the most ridiculous thing, we all watch these ridiculous videos together of stupid cop files.

Not once has you or Any other officer come on here and said that's wrong.

Who's nuts?


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If you don't like it then stop perusing the "Mindless Blabber" forum. Specifically its for non-pressure washing discussion and yet everyone is drawn like a moth to the light and get mad when they dont like what they see??
 
I really have no issue on this Cop thing, I used to think tony was over the Top. Frankly I'm safer now, I will conform next time I get stopped by and officer. I want to Live

Thanks Tony for making me realize I have better chances of getting killed on a routine traffic stop than in a aircraft.
 
Why does it not surprise me that cops on this board would want to shut down free speech?

Not a single one of them has taken me up on my challenge to produce one documented incident where they have turned another officer in for doing something illegal or immoral.

All I get is personal attacks and a combined effort to shut me up. As I've stated before, I don't do wood refinishing, but you won't ever see me go into the wood refinishing sections of this board griping and complaining and saying "I'm sick and tired of hearing all this talk about wood". I just simply ignore the wood section because it has nothing to do with me. If what I am saying about cops doesn't apply to you, then either ignore it or produce evidence in defense of the other cops. It's that simple.

And John, you might want to look closely at the picture where you claimed my daughter is "pointing a gun at someone's head". First you will notice that there is not one finger on one trigger. If you'd like I can post you thousands of pictures of the police getting ready to enter homes with fingers on the trigger. Second, no guns in that picture are pointed at anyone. Every one of them are pointed up and outward as they have all been taught. Third, that child is probably as well or better trained than many on your force. She took her first rifle class at age 8 and can shoot a dime at 25 yards repeatedly. Carlos is six and can shoot a dime at 25 yards at least 3 out of ten shots. Fayth has been taught multiple shooting techniques including freehand because freehand shots are the most common shots fired in a life and death situation. She can hit a tin can over and over again and empty the magazine freehand hitting the can almost every shot at 21 ft. That's a lot more than I can say for your force. http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/24/justice/new-york-empire-state/index.html

I've posted this before, but here is the FIRST time she heard AR15 fire. It was right next to her, blew smoke and dust all into her face and scared the crap out of her. Yet she was easily able to keep her composure, while shaking with fear, secure her weapon, then promptly walk to the back where she cried. Now she can hit that same dime with an AR15.


There was a time in the history of our country when most young boys and many young girls could do the same.

For the record I think there is an absolute need for police. I think they are needed for dealing with and punishing those who harm others. I think, under those parameters it is a noble profession. I'm sure there are many good cops out there. But NO good cop would ever condone what has been happening in this country over the past 15 years by the police. If they spent their time and resources on real criminals who hurt others our crime problem would be almost non-existent.

But no good cop has the guts to come out and condemn abuse on a public board because they are afraid of losing their jobs. That is sad and is on par with what happened in the Catholic church with the pedophiles.
 
Tony Shelton said:
Why does it not surprise me that cops on this board would want to shut down free speech?

Not a single one of them has taken me up on my challenge to produce one documented incident where they have turned another officer in for doing something illegal or immoral.

All I get is personal attacks and a combined effort to shut me up. As I've stated before, I don't do wood refinishing, but you won't ever see me go into the wood refinishing sections of this board griping and complaining and saying "I'm sick and tired of hearing all this talk about wood". I just simply ignore the wood section because it has nothing to do with me. If what I am saying about cops doesn't apply to you, then either ignore it or produce evidence in defense of the other cops. It's that simple.

And John, you might want to look closely at the picture where you claimed my daughter is "pointing a gun at someone's head". First you will notice that there is not one finger on one trigger. If you'd like I can post you thousands of pictures of the police getting ready to enter homes with fingers on the trigger. Second, no guns in that picture are pointed at anyone. Every one of them are pointed up and outward as they have all been taught. Third, that child is probably as well or better trained than many on your force. She took her first rifle class at age 8 and can shoot a dime at 25 yards repeatedly. Carlos is six and can shoot a dime at 25 yards at least 3 out of ten shots. Fayth has been taught multiple shooting techniques including freehand because freehand shots are the most common shots fired in a life and death situation. She can hit a tin can over and over again and empty the magazine freehand hitting the can almost every shot at 21 ft. That's a lot more than I can say for your force. http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/24/justice/new-york-empire-state/index.html

I've posted this before, but here is the FIRST time she heard AR15 fire. It was right next to her, blew smoke and dust all into her face and scared the crap out of her. Yet she was easily able to keep her composure, while shaking with fear, secure her weapon, then promptly walk to the back where she cried. Now she can hit that same dime with an AR15.


There was a time in the history of our country when most young boys and many young girls could do the same.

For the record I think there is an absolute need for police. I think they are needed for dealing with and punishing those who harm others. I think, under those parameters it is a noble profession. I'm sure there are many good cops out there. But NO good cop would ever condone what has been happening in this country over the past 15 years by the police. If they spent their time and resources on real criminals who hurt others our crime problem would be almost non-existent.

But no good cop has the guts to come out and condemn abuse on a public board because they are afraid of losing their jobs. That is sad and is on par with what happened in the Catholic church with the pedophiles.
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.......thats a cool name......just saying! :lol:
 
Wow excellent control there Fayth....right now I got Emma Grace training on a Daisy BB Gun, will ease her into the big stuff gradually. She love shooting that thing though.

Hey Tony, for every one person that says they are tired of hearing this there will be 5 that will say they find what you are posting very interesting. In fact for some, like me I find it very interesting. The reason i find it so interesting is I have several close personal friends that are cops. A few I even ride along with on occasion.

You stole the wood analogy from me before I could post, but I too never peruse the Wood Section, or The Fleet Wash Section, or KEC section and others. They are just of no interest to me. When I use to read a newspaper, if the headline didn't interest me I didn't read the article.

Your one of the few here that when I see your name I read the post, doesn't matter to me what the subject is. The reason is, you make me think, and you ALWAYS make sense. Do I always agree with you, NO, but I always see the point your making.
 
bigchaz said:
If you don't like it then stop perusing the "Mindless Blabber" forum. Specifically its for non-pressure washing discussion and yet everyone is drawn like a moth to the light and get mad when they dont like what they see??
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Honestly i would but when i click on recent posts its always right infront of me. Its like watching a kid on a bicycle getting ready to jump off a roof. You cant help but watch but you already know the outcome.
 
Tony you should take the test become a cop then you could fix all the problems you have with law enforcement. I know in the department i used to work for( i am no longer a cop) I would only see or deal with the men and women on my squad. We had over 130 officers and i still dont know everyone on the whole force. Its very easy for someone who has never done the job to tell someone else how to do it and what they should do and act like. You really havent a clue. You just see and search for the negativity ( which you draw on yourself) ( negativity draws negativity). For me when i was a cop i saw nothing that needed to be reported and everyone on my platoon did their job within the parameters of the law. Just like any profession there will always be bad apples but that dosent make everyone a bad apple as well.

Have a safe and happy christmas tony..I will do my best to aviod your negative post about law enforcment.
 
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