Hang Tite Vs Roof Snot Vs Gain

Dan Manley said:
i used to be a gain/dish soap guy...but same would happen to me, works good on siding and flat work, but on roofs would just run off like pure water. I would even go as far as adding close to half a gallon if not more and it would work some what better but still more run off than I liked.

Then the next day I would have to amp the bleach up because average dish soap deterates the mix. There were even times I could see it not working as well at the end of the day and would have to boost it a lil bit to perform as it was earlier in the day.

then I bought a gallon of roof snot to try, and after the first use I was sold!! Clings like crazy and foams twice as good for siding and flat work, as well as takes less product to achieve the results. I instantly came home and ordered 2 5ers.

I make 200 gallons of mix everyday, and unlike before I never have to boost the product because snot doesnot deterate my mix. Works just as good 2-3 days later.

Before i I would go to several stores and straight buy them out of the soap I liked, sometimes making 3 trips a week, now I make an order when I get down to about 2-3 gallons. At my door step in 3 days, just the time and effort I save from running around after work to restock the truck is well worth it.

So for all that have not tried it, order a gallon or quart to try...you will never by dish soap or another foaming additive again
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Here is the MSDS for Gain, and as can be clearly seen, it will NOT degrade your mix.
http://www.pg.com/productsafety/msd...tra_Gain_Dishwashing_Liquid_MSDS_Jan_2014.pdf

In fact, Gain Ultra Dishsoap has Ammonyx LO IN it.

It is unconditionally stable, and the MSDS lists nothing to avoid, meaning it is safe to mix with anything.
 
I have had great results using the roof snot for both roof cleaning and house washing.

It is nice that you can use this one product for different types of cleaning.
 
FTM-PTB said:
Ok.. I need some guidance... I did 44 oz in 90 gallons... On flatwork, it was killer.. Really foamed up... On the roof, ran off like it was straight water.


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Not really on the soap topic,..But maybe technique could help,...Runoff is easily controlled by how much you're spraying and how you're spraying it. I start at the top of the roof and work down allowing the flow to do some of the coverage as opposed to spraying every inch. Then, depending on pitch,... I spray about 1/3 to 3/4 of the way down the roof and then let the flow takeover,..and then touch up if needed. I have always sprayed too much and would watch it run out the downspout,..seemed wasteful. So I learned to be patient, while learning a better technique.

I think the soap is more important as a detergent and to also allow the mix to stay wet longer, and also as a surfactant to allow the hypochlorite to penetrate and work better and faster.

Jeff
 
Myristamine Oxide, sometimes mixed with Gain. Super sticky so a little goes a long way. Best for steep roofs and a lot of moss.

Keep in mind that the thicker and stickier your mix is, the more it will stick to plants. Only time we ever killed foliage is with too much MO in the mix...and that was with somebody washing the bejeezus out of them.
 
to clarify i used gain dish soap. Im not against roof snot at all.. i actually really want to go that route.. just can't overcome the shipping cost. or the cost in general. but from what I'm reading it sounds much superior, and also will go farther as a much smaller amount is needed?..

i definitely need to work on my technique, theres no doubt..

has anyone gone the gain LAUNDRY soap route? anyone ever try it? is it a different chemical base? i feel like it would be stronger as a surfactant, and as a odor mask.

thoughts?
 
Hey David, I tried the gain laundry detergent on a roof once and it was a total let down. The dish soap is much thicker and works better.
The detergent is great on houses though.
 
PeakOfPerfection said:
Myristamine Oxide, sometimes mixed with Gain. Super sticky so a little goes a long way. Best for steep roofs and a lot of moss.

Keep in mind that the thicker and stickier your mix is, the more it will stick to plants. Only time we ever killed foliage is with too much MO in the mix...and that was with somebody washing the bejeezus out of them.
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Kevin

What kind of cocktail or ratio do you use regarding the MO?
 
814jeffw said:
Not really on the soap topic,..But maybe technique could help,...Runoff is easily controlled by how much you're spraying and how you're spraying it. I start at the top of the roof and work down allowing the flow to do some of the coverage as opposed to spraying every inch. Then, depending on pitch,... I spray about 1/3 to 3/4 of the way down the roof and then let the flow takeover,..and then touch up if needed. I have always sprayed too much and would watch it run out the downspout,..seemed wasteful. So I learned to be patient, while learning a better technique.

I think the soap is more important as a detergent and to also allow the mix to stay wet longer, and also as a surfactant to allow the hypochlorite to penetrate and work better and faster.

Jeff
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I agree technique resolves many issues. I use half the chem on a roof that most do. Its the number one issue I see nationwide when I am traveling.

AC
 
FTM-PTB said:
to clarify i used gain dish soap. Im not against roof snot at all.. i actually really want to go that route.. just can't overcome the shipping cost. or the cost in general. but from what I'm reading it sounds much superior, and also will go farther as a much smaller amount is needed?..

i definitely need to work on my technique, theres no doubt..

has anyone gone the gain LAUNDRY soap route? anyone ever try it? is it a different chemical base? i feel like it would be stronger as a surfactant, and as a odor mask.

thoughts?
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Five gallons of Snot is only about $100 after shipping. In the long run, it won't cost you much more than Gain, because a small amount will stretch much further. Although I have been using Myristamine from my bleach supplier lately...

DunRite said:
Kevin

What kind of cocktail or ratio do you use regarding the MO?
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I have recently started experimenting with this. It seems like Myristamine doesn't mix very well because it's so thick. But yesterday, for the first time, I decided to get an empty gallon jug and fill it half way up with water and then fill the rest up with MO. I shook it up really well before pouring it, and all of the sudden I had the ultimate roof cleaning soap! It pours and mixes much more easily now. I used the same amount of this this water/MO as I do Roof Snot. 32 Oz per 50 gallons of roof mix. So that's 16 o, of actual Myristamine. It was super foamy and sticky. I may try less next time.



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ok i just did the math.. (for anyone else lookin at cost comparisson)

5 gal bucket of SNOT = 640 ounces
50 gal mix requires ~32 oz (which averages to 1.56 oz of SNOT per gallon)

if you use 50 gallons of chem for one roof cleaning mix.. that means each mix (with 32 oz of SNOT) costs $5.00 worth of SNOT per job/mix.

and will give you 20 mixes worth (with a 5 gallon bucket at 50 gallon mixes every time)


that being said.. i will be buying a 5 gallon bucket of SNOT..

THANK YOU.
 
...UNLESS... if Russ is going to bring any with him to sell at the expo?????? .. than that means its even CHEAPER

=O
 
FTM-PTB said:
...UNLESS... if Russ is going to bring any with him to sell at the expo?????? .. than that means its even CHEAPER

=O
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Russ said he won't be in orlando... no shippings savings for you... But roof snot still cant be beat!
 
AC Lockyer said:
I agree technique resolves many issues. I use half the chem on a roof that most do. Its the number one issue I see nationwide when I am traveling.

AC
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It only took my wife firing you to get your ass in gear ; )
 
FTM-PTB said:
to clarify i used gain dish soap. Im not against roof snot at all.. i actually really want to go that route.. just can't overcome the shipping cost. or the cost in general. but from what I'm reading it sounds much superior, and also will go farther as a much smaller amount is needed?..

i definitely need to work on my technique, theres no doubt..

has anyone gone the gain LAUNDRY soap route? anyone ever try it? is it a different chemical base? i feel like it would be stronger as a surfactant, and as a odor mask.

thoughts?
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The Ultra Gain Dishsoap much is better. Here is why.
Dishwashing Liquids are always stronger, more concentrated soaps then Laundry Detergents.
You can always wash dishes with laundry soaps, just add a little more. But just try washing clothes with a Dishsoap. Put from 1/2 to 1 cup of dishsoap in place of 1 cup of laundry detergent, and watch the suds come out of the washing machine :(
 
Interesting point..

I did order a bucket of snot, and used it on a house wash the other day for the first time.. Vinyl siding... Stuck like glue... I'm in love!
 
Snot. Hands down.

May look into what is more cost effective for the results...

Guys over at powerwashstore have a new surfactant that I'm going to try out when it gets here... I'll let you guys know what it's like
 
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