Gun Law HR-45 Obamas change

nick do you carry an ak?do you think you pistol will compare?not trying to single you out bro by no means. i own about 13 diff. firearms.from a .22cal pistol to a 7mag rifle. and a couple bows. but they need strict laws like in mexico.if they catch you with any type of firearm or even ammo youre in the slammer for a long time. no1 here as the firepower on them everyday to compete with the druglords. so you 45 cal is useless! i agree it will be a pita to register all my wepons as some were hand me downs from my grandady + gifts from when i was about 10yrs. old. who knows what will happen later in the year as sh*t hits the fan?

Sounds to me like the citizens of Brownsville, Tx ought to either

a) appeal to the National guard to come down there and kick some butt.
or
b) go on a shopping spree and buy up some decent weapons and stand up for themselves.

Or you guys could pass a strict law forbidding drug lords from killing innocent people. Yeah, that will do it. A strict law always stops crime! :rolleyes:

And by the way the sh*t will hit the fan when Obama takes your guns. That's the only thing keeping them from walking right into you house and taking whatever they want right now.
 
nick do you carry an ak?do you think you pistol will compare?not trying to single you out bro by no means. i own about 13 diff. firearms.from a .22cal pistol to a 7mag rifle. and a couple bows. but they need strict laws like in mexico.if they catch you with any type of firearm or even ammo youre in the slammer for a long time. no1 here as the firepower on them everyday to compete with the druglords. so you 45 cal is useless! i agree it will be a pita to register all my wepons as some were hand me downs from my grandady + gifts from when i was about 10yrs. old. who knows what will happen later in the year as sh*t hits the fan?

Also, when you are referring to an "AK" are you talking about an automatic AK or a semi-automatic AK? If they are carrying automatic AK's they are already breaking the law and that just goes to prove the point that everyone on here is trying to make.

If it is a semi-automatic AK, it's not superior to thousands of rifles that are perfectly legal.

Last, my wife lived in Mexico for quite a while. Are you trying to say that we need to pass laws so that the citizens of the US can feel safe like the citizens of Mexico do due to the wonderful gun laws there?

If you think for one second that the gun laws allow for a feeling of security in Mexico, I'd like for you to give me a call and spend a few minutes talking to someone who's lived there. You can ask her where she feels safer.
 
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NANCY PELOSI

Windfall Tax on Retirement Income

Adding a tax to your retirement is simply another way of saying to the American people, "You're so darn stupid that we're going to keep doing this until we drain every cent from you." That's what the Speaker of the House is saying. Read below...............

Nancy Pelosi wants a Windfall Tax on Retirement Income. In other words, tax what you have made by investing toward your retirement. This woman is a nut case! You aren't going to believe this.

Madam speaker Nancy Pelosi wants to put a Windfall Tax on all stock market profits (including Retirement fund, 401K and Mutual Funds!) Alas, it is true - all to help the 12 Million ILLEGAL Immigrants and other unemployed Minorities!



This woman is frightening.

She quotes..."We need to work toward the goal of equalizing income (didn't Marx say something like this?) in our country and at the same time limiting the amount the rich can invest.' (I am not rich, are you?)



When asked how these new tax dollars would be spent, she replied:

"We need to raise the standard of living of our poor, unemployed and minorities. For example, we have an estimated 12 million illegal immigrants in our country who need our help along with millions of unemployed minorities. Stock market windfall profits taxes could go a long way to guarantee these people the standard of living they would like to have as 'Americans".



(Read that quote again and again and let it sink in.)



"Lower your retirement, give it to others who have not worked as you have for it..."



Send it on to your friends. I just did!! This lady is out of her mind and she is the speaker of the house!

We need to FIGHT BACK!
 
Mexico is a great example of gun laws that don't work. The ONLY people that have guns are crooks and cops. The average law abiding citizen can do nothing to protect himself/herself or their family.


Mexico's Drug War Death Toll: 8,463 and Counting


A record-breaking 5,612 people were executed in Mexico’s drug war in 2008, making the drug war more deadly than the drugs
Mexico's daily El Universal, which began counting drug war executions four years ago, reports that 5,612 people were executed in Mexico’s drug war in 2008. This year’s deaths more than doubled 2007’s total of over 2,700 executions. By El Universal's estimates, about 8,463 drug executions have occurred during the first two years of Mexican President Felipe Calderon’s six-year term in office. Calderon deployed the army and federal police to combat drug cartels almost immediately upon assuming office in December 2006.
 
"Some people think that the Second Amendment is an outdated relic of an
earlier time. Doubtless some also think that constitutional protections
of other rights are outdated relics of earlier times. We The People own
those rights regardless, unless and until We The People repeal them.
For those who believe it to be outdated, the Second Amendment provides
a good test of whether their allegiance is really to the Constitution
of the United States, or only to their preferences in public policies
and audiences. The Constitution is law, not vague aspirations, and we
are obligated to protect, defend, and apply it. If the Second Amendment
were truly an outdated relic, the Constitution provides a method for
repeal. The Constitution does not furnish the federal courts with an
eraser." --9th Circuit Court Judge Andrew Kleinfeld, dissenting opinion
in which the court refused to rehear the case while citing deeply
flawed anti-Second Amendment nonsense (Nordyke v. King; opinion filed
April 5, 2004)
 
nick do you carry an ak?do you think you pistol will compare?not trying to single you out bro by no means. i own about 13 diff. firearms.from a .22cal pistol to a 7mag rifle. and a couple bows. but they need strict laws like in mexico.if they catch you with any type of firearm or even ammo youre in the slammer for a long time. no1 here as the firepower on them everyday to compete with the druglords. so you 45 cal is useless! i agree it will be a pita to register all my wepons as some were hand me downs from my grandady + gifts from when i was about 10yrs. old. who knows what will happen later in the year as sh*t hits the fan?

You answered your self with this post. If Obama takes our guns "our" being the law obiding citizens then when in need we would be dead. However if a town had a right to carry in the open Im sure less people would be F-ed with. As far as AK goes there are about 5 in the family and many other Ar-15, rifles,shotguns, and hand guns. If the governmant won't protect us we have to be ready to do it on our own. I know Im not the only one that feels this way just try and buy .223 or 308 ammo. Its on back order for months. Gun shops are selling guns at alarming rates.
 
Mexico is a pit.
To be honest it has more internal problems with drugs and violence at every level to the point that in the far northern and southern provences the drug cartells run the areas as opposed to the government.
The state department considers the areas so volitile there are travel advisories in effect but never publicised since they are a NAFTA member and are supposedly on the same page.
In the next 5 years that country will spin down to anarchy, it is on the same time line as Cambodia in the early 70's or Iran in the early 80's look how the government repsonds ( or does't respond) to internal problems there.
 
The US Military is warning of a Collapse in Mexico of their Government here soon with he way the are killing each other and the government has no control over any of it.

It is out of hand down on our borders right now and getting worse by the day.
And now we have 11 Illegals suing a rancher for stopping them from crossing on his land, Only in the USA can a Law Breaker Sue to Break The Law.
 
Subject: The Gun Ban list is out. Here it is....

Folks, here it is and it is bad news. The framework for legislation is already laid, and the Democrats have the votes to pass anything they want to impose upon us. They really do not believe you need anything more than a brick to defend your home and family. Look at the list and see how many you own. Remember, it is registration, then confiscation. It has happened in the UK, in Australia, in Europe, in China, and what they have found is that for some reason the criminals do not turn in their weapons, but will know that you did. Please send this to everyone you can. It will come up for a vote, and it might even be a secret vote if Madame Pelosi has her way, and then it will be a done deal. .....thanks to Colonel Russ.......Hal

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Subject: Right to own a gun

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Remember, The first step in establishing a dictatorship is to disarm the citizens
I don't know which of you are gun owners (I am) but take a look.

Subject: Gun Law Update by Alan Korwin, Democrats have already leaked a gun-ban list. Forward or send to every gun owner you know....

Gun Law Update by Alan Korwin,
Author Gun Laws of America

Jan. 5, 2008

Gun-ban list proposed.

Slipping below the radar (or under the short-term memory cap), the Democrats
Have already leaked a gun-ban list, even under the Bush administration when
They knew full well it had no chance of passage (HR 1022, 110th Congress)
It serves as a framework for the new list the Brady's plan to introduce shortly.

I have an outline of the Brady's current plans and targets of opportunity,
It's horrific. They're going after the courts, regulatory agencies, firearms
Dealers and statutes in an all out effort to restrict we the people. They've
Made little mention of criminals.

Now more than ever, attention to the entire Bill of Rights is critical. Gun
Bans will impact our freedoms under search and seizure, due process,
Confiscated property, states' rights, free speech, right to assemble and
More, in addition to the Second Amendment.

The Democrats current gun-ban-list proposal (final list will be worse):

Rifles (or copies or duplicates):

M1 Carbine, Sturm Ruger Mini-14, AR-15, Bushmaster XM15,
Armalite M15, AR-10, Thompson 1927, Thompson M1; AK, AKM, AKS, AK-47,
AK-74, ARM, MAK90, NHM 90, NHM 91, SA 85, SA 93, VEPR; Olympic Arms PCR;
AR70, Calico Liberty, Dragunov SVD Sniper Rifle or Dragunov SVU, Fabrique
National FN/FAL, FN/LAR,or FNC, Hi-Point20Carbine, HK-91, HK-93, HK-94, HK-PSG-1,
Thompson 1927 Commando, Kel-Tec Sub Rifle; Saiga, SAR-8, SAR-4800, SKS with detachable magazine, SLG 95, SLR 95 or 96, Steyr AU, Tavor, Uzi, Galil and Uzi Sporter, Galil Sporter, or

Galil Sniper Rifle ( Galatz ).

Pistols (or copies or duplicates):

Calico M-110, MAC-10, MAC-11, or MPA3, Olympic Arms OA,
TEC-9, TEC-DC9, TEC-22 Scorpion, or AB-10, Uzi.

Shotguns (or copies or duplicates):
Armscor 30 BG, SPAS 12 or LAW 12, Striker 12, Streetsweeper.
Catch-all category (for anything missed or new designs):

A semiautomatic rifle that accepts a detachable magazine and has:

(I) a folding or telescoping stock,
(ii) a threaded barrel,
(iii) a pistol grip (which includes ANYTHING that can serve as a grip, see below),
(iv) a forward grip; or a barrel shroud.

Any semiautomatic rifle with a fixed magazine that can
Accept more than 10 rounds (except tubular magazine .22 rimfire rifles).

A semiautomatic pistol that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine,
And has:

(I) a second pistol grip,
(ii) a threaded barrel,
(iii) a barrel shroud or
(iv) can accept a detachable magazine outside of the pistol grip, and
(v) a semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds.

A semiautomatic shotgun with:
(i) a folding or telescoping stock,
(ii) a pistol grip (see definition below),
(iii) the ability to accept a detachable magazine or a fixed magazine capacity of more than 5
rounds, and
(iv) a shotgun with a revolving cylinder.

Frames or receivers for the above are included, along with conversion kit.



Attorney General gets carte blanche to ban guns at will:

Under the proposal, the U.S. Attorney General can add any "semiautomaticrifle or
shotgun originally designed for military or law enforcement use, or a firearm based
on the design of such a firearm, that is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes,
as determined by the Attorney General."

Note that Obama's pick for this office (Eric Holder, confirmation hearing set for Jan. 15)
wrote a brief in the Heller case supporting the position that you have no right to have a
working firearm in your own home.

In making this determination, the bill says, "there shall be a rebuttable presumption that
a firearm procured for use by the United States military or any federal law enforcement agency
is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, and a firearm shall not be determined to be
particularly suitable for sporting purposes solely because the firearm is suitable for use in a
sporting event."

In plain English this means that ANY firearm ever obtained by federal officers or the military
is not suitable for the public.

The last part is particularly clever, stating that a firearm doesn't have a sporting purpose just because
it can be used for sporting purpose -- is that devious or what? And of course, "sporting purpose" is a
rights infringement with no constitutional or historical support whatsoever, invented by domestic enemies of the right to keep and bear arms to further their cause of disarming the innocent.

Respectfully submitted,

Alan Korwin,

Author Gun Laws of America
http://www.gunlaws.com/gloa.htm

Forward or send to every gun owner you know.....
 
Update!

This is REAL! Doesn't just include the so called "assault rifles".

http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/blairholt.asp<o></o>
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Very Important for you to be aware of a new bill HR 45 introduced into the House.
This is the Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sale Act of 2009. <o></o>>
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Even gun shop owners didn't know about this because it is flying under the radar. <o></o>
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To find out about this - go to any government website and type in HR 45 or Goggle HR 45 Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sales Act of 2009. You will get all the information. <o></o>
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Basically this would make it illegal to own a firearm - any rifle with a clip or ANY pistol unless: <o></o>

  • [*]It is registered<o></o>
    [*]You are fingerprinted<o></o>
    [*]You supply a current Driver's License<o></o>
    [*]You supply your Social Security #<o></o>
    [*]You will submit to a physical & mental evaluation at any time of their choosing.<o></o>
    [*]Each update - change or ownership through private or public sale must be reported and costs $25 - Failure to do so you automatically lose the right to own a firearm and are subject up to a year in jail.<o></o>
    [*]There is a child provision clause on page 16 section 305 stating a child-access provision. Gun must be locked and inaccessible to any child under 18. <o></o>
They would have the right to come and inspect that you are storing your gun safely away from accessibility to children and fine is punishable for up to 5 yrs. in prison.<o></o>
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If you think this is a joke - go to the website and take your pick of many options to read this. It is long and lengthy. But, more and more people are becoming aware of this. Pass the word along. Any hunters in your family - pass this along.<o></o><o></o>
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This is just a "termite" approach to complete confiscation of guns and disarming of our society to the point we have no defense - chip away a little here and there until the goal is accomplished before anyone realizes it.<o></o>
This is one to act on whether you own a gun or not. <o></o>

If you take my gun, only the criminal will have one to use against me. HR 45 only makes me/us less safe. After working with convicts for 26 years I know this bill, if passed, would make them happy and in less danger from their victims. <o></o>
 
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