Gun Law HR-45 Obamas change

Kory

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It's Started ----- Obama to take guns


Here they come, ready or not. Feel the water getting warmer?

Are you ready for the House Bill titled 'HR 45, Blair Holt Licensing and Record Act of 2009'. It will make it illegal to own a firearm unless it is registered with the database in Washington D.C. As a gun owner you will have to be finger printed, you will be required to provide your DL#, SS#, you must maintain a valid address at all times, submit to mental and physical health
records being put on file, you will also be required to file any address changes and any ownership changes even if a private sale. Each update will cost $25 and if you fail to comply you will lose your right to own firearms. This bill and its language mirror almost completely one defeated last year in the House of Representatives by soon to be Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel. Will we the citizenry be as lucky this time?

Pass this on to everyone who believes in strict Constitutionalism and remember that laws only apply to those who obey them. Criminals by definition and nature do not abide by laws. New laws and restrictions only apply to the law abiding citizen and are not written with the criminal in mind. With guns, it is not about having laws on the books to prosecute individuals, it is about taking
guns away from the people so that no one has them in the first place. One last item to note, when assuming power and creating a facist state, Hitler was a proponent of strong gun laws because a disarmed populace was much easier to control than an armed one. The kings of old also outlawed weapons of any kind in any region that they conquered to quell the ability of the citizens to uprise against them.

The Founding Fathers of this nation understood all of the above and because of this they included the second amendment in the constitution. In fact, they knew that at some point in every society's life span that the need for the population to arise came about. To this end they made the right to keep and bear arms against a tyrannical state an absolute right that could not be revoked.
They did this because the first thing tyrants and despots do is to remove a population's right to defend themselves When this is done, the tyrants have no problem with the destruction of society as we know it.

Send this on to all true patriots! Protect your Second Amendment!

The following is a summary of the bill as provided by the Congressional Research Service. If you read the whole bill, you'll find it will effectively preclude the ownership of ANY firearms by law-abiding people unless licensed by the Attorney General. How long do you think THAT would take??
Congressional Research Service Summary
The following summary was written by the Congressional Research Service, a well-respected nonpartisan arm of the Library of Congress. GovTrack did not write and has no control over these summaries.
1/6/2009--Introduced.
Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009 - Amends the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act to prohibit a person from possessing a firearm unless that person has been issued a firearm license under this Act or a state system certified under this Act and such license has not been invalidated or revoked. Prescribes license application, issuance, and renewal requirements.
Prohibits transferring or receiving a qualifying firearm unless the recipient presents a valid firearms license, the license is verified, and the dealer records a tracking authorization number. Prescribes firearms transfer reporting and record keeping requirements. Directs the Attorney General to establish and maintain a federal record of sale system.


Prohibits: (1) transferring a firearm to any person other than a licensee, unless the transfer is processed through a licensed dealer in accordance with national instant criminal background check system requirements, with exceptions;


(2) a licensed manufacturer or dealer from failing to comply with reporting and record keeping requirements of this Act;


(3) failing to report the loss or theft of the firearm to the Attorney General within 72 hours;



(4) failing to report to the Attorney General an address change within 60 days; or


(5) keeping a loaded firearm, or an unloaded firearm and ammunition for the firearm, knowingly or recklessly disregarding the risk that a child is capable of gaining access, if a child uses the firearm and causes death or serious bodily injury.
Prescribes criminal penalties for violations of firearms provisions covered by this Act.
Directs the Attorney General to: (1) establish and maintain a firearm injury information clearinghouse; (2) conduct continuing studies and investigations of firearm-related deaths and injuries; and (3) collect and maintain current production and sales figures of each licensed manufacturer. Authorizes the Attorney General to certify state firearm licensing or record of sale systems.



Pleased be advised and pass this along: House Bill HR 45, Blair Holt Licensing and Record Act of 2009
Will, in my opinion, be the first of 2 or 3 steps toward confiscation of privately owned firearms.

You can follow the sequence as it already happened in Canada and the UK. First the government needs to register the guns so they will know where to find them.


Its time to start making my own ammo!
 
Hell he is Screwing everything he Touches up why not take our GUNS now, I mean 5 of 9 of the people he has put up for positions in the last 2 weeks has not payed TAX'S, but we are suppose too GO FIGURE.............:eek: :mad:

I see bad things coming down the road and FAST.
 
I can't find 762x39 anywhere in bulk, it is out all over the net.
What worries me is taking our guns away and having the mess they have going on in Mexico, I mean they are under siege down there from Drug Lords and that Government is only months or years at most from falling and border states will pay the price from this. Have you seen the weapons that these Drug Lords are buying? it is CRAZY stuff and living near the killing zone right now is scary.

First it is Registering Guns, then it is Taxing the Guns you have, then it is Limiting Ammo, then taking them away and it is coming.
 
I can't find 762x39 anywhere in bulk, it is out all over the net.
What worries me is taking our guns away and having the mess they have going on in Mexico, I mean they are under siege down there from Drug Lords and that Government is only months or years at most from falling and border states will pay the price from this. Have you seen the weapons that these Drug Lords are buying? it is CRAZY stuff and living near the killing zone right now is scary.

First it is Registering Guns, then it is Taxing the Guns you have, then it is Limiting Ammo, then taking them away and it is coming.

Well i remember Joe Biden saying that they will have to fight me to get my Gun's!!!That was while he was running against Hussin, will see what happens now!!
 
It still blows my mind to think that some of the american people actually voted for this guy! Osama or is it Obama, whats the difference anyways.
 
Not a bad idea in my book it will cut down on the guys carying a-k's and m-9's and other heavy firepower around here. the border is my backyard and it been getting pretty rough. you now see the guns in plain sight around here. they walk down the street with them like nothing. its only a bad law if you got somthing to hide. I dought they will ban all firearms. they will just have a papper trail on the ser.# to keep everyone in line. look at the mexican new chanel and see whats going down in my neck of the woods. we are stuck in the middle of a drug war.
 
Not a bad idea in my book it will cut down on the guys carying a-k's and m-9's and other heavy firepower around here. the border is my backyard and it been getting pretty rough. you now see the guns in plain sight around here. they walk down the street with them like nothing. its only a bad law if you got somthing to hide. I dought they will ban all firearms. they will just have a papper trail on the ser.# to keep everyone in line. look at the mexican new chanel and see whats going down in my neck of the woods. we are stuck in the middle of a drug war.

All the reason to be armed!! Do you think the drug lords will be turning in their guns.:rolleyes:
 
All laws like this accomplish is keeping weapons out of law abiding citizens hands. DC had a gun ban and they had some of the highest crime rates in the country.

Its got nothing to do with keeping people safe. It has to do with the government having complete control and making sure the least amount of people have weapons when revolution time comes.
 
All laws like this accomplish is keeping weapons out of law abiding citizens hands. DC had a gun ban and they had some of the highest crime rates in the country.

Its got nothing to do with keeping people safe. It has to do with the government having complete control and making sure the least amount of people have weapons when revolution time comes.

Exactly, if they Unarm the law abiding public, then they will have achieved their goal!!
 
Lets face it, Drug Lords Reg all their Guns LOL how Naive can you be to think any Criminal would abide by the Law or Laws as we see now they sell our Kids crap that kills them and you think they would reg their Guns?

Lets Face it, it is not Law Abiding Citizens Committing these CRIMES now is it?
Common sense tells me these Laws are not targeted for Criminals, but the Common law Abiding Citizen to control us and finally take them from us.
 
"The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing. Indeed, I would go so far as to say that the supply of arms to the underdogs is a sine qua non for the overthrow of any sovereignty. So let's not have any native militia or native police. German troops alone will bear the sole responsibility for the maintenance of law and order throughout the occupied Russian territories, and a system of military strong-points must be evolved to cover the entire occupied country." --Adolf Hitler, dinner talk on April 11, 1942, quoted in Hitler's Table Talk 1941-44: His Private Conversations, Second Edition (1973), Pg. 425-426. Translated by Norman Cameron and R. H. Stevens. Introduced and with a new preface by H. R. Trevor-Roper. The original German papers were known as Bormann-Vermerke.
 
Gun Control
A History Lesson


In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control . From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 15 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated
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China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
----------------------------

Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

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Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

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Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million 'educated' people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

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Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century with the help of gun control: 56 million.

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It has now been more than one year since gun owners in Australia were forced by new law to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed by their own government, a program costing Australia taxpayers more than $500 million dollars . The first year results are now in:

Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2 percent

Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6 percent

Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44 percent)!

In the state of Victoria alone, homicides with firearms are now up 300 percent. Note that while the law-abiding citizens turned them in, the criminals did not, and criminals still possess their guns!
It's a safe bet that the Aussies said that also !

While figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady decrease in armed robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically upward in the past 12 months, since criminals now are guaranteed that their prey is unarmed.

There has also been a dramatic increase in break-ins and assaults of the ELDERLY. Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how public safety has decreased, after such monumental effort and expense was expended in successfully ridding Australian society of guns. The Australian experience and the other historical facts above prove it.

You won't see this data on the US evening news, or hear politicians disseminating this information.

Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws adversely affect only the law-abiding citizens.

Take note my fellow Americans, before it's too late!

The next time someone talks in favor of gun control, please remind him of this history lesson.

With Guns...........We Are "Citizens".
Without Them........We Are "Subjects".

During W.W.II the Japanese decided not to invade America because they knew most Americans were ARMED !

Note: Admiral Yamamoto who crafted the attack on Pearl Harbor had attended Harvard U 1919-1921 & was Naval Attache to the U. S. 1925-28. Most of our Navy was destroyed at Pearl Harbor & our Army had been deprived of funding & was ill prepared to defend the country.


It was reported that when asked why Japan did not follow up the Pearl Harbor attack with an invasion of the U. S Mainland, his reply was that he had lived in the U. S. & knew that almost all households had guns.

If you value your freedom, Please spread this anti-gun control message to all your friends!
 
nick do you carry an ak?do you think you pistol will compare?not trying to single you out bro by no means. i own about 13 diff. firearms.from a .22cal pistol to a 7mag rifle. and a couple bows. but they need strict laws like in mexico.if they catch you with any type of firearm or even ammo youre in the slammer for a long time. no1 here as the firepower on them everyday to compete with the druglords. so you 45 cal is useless! i agree it will be a pita to register all my wepons as some were hand me downs from my grandady + gifts from when i was about 10yrs. old. who knows what will happen later in the year as sh*t hits the fan?
 
Gun Control
A History Lesson


In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control . From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
------------------------------

In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 15 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
---------------------------

Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated
------------------------------

China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
----------------------------

Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

------------------------------
Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

------------------------------
Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million 'educated' people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

-----------------------------
Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century with the help of gun control: 56 million.

------------------------------
It has now been more than one year since gun owners in Australia were forced by new law to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed by their own government, a program costing Australia taxpayers more than $500 million dollars . The first year results are now in:

Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2 percent

Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6 percent

Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44 percent)!

In the state of Victoria alone, homicides with firearms are now up 300 percent. Note that while the law-abiding citizens turned them in, the criminals did not, and criminals still possess their guns!
It's a safe bet that the Aussies said that also !

While figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady decrease in armed robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically upward in the past 12 months, since criminals now are guaranteed that their prey is unarmed.

There has also been a dramatic increase in break-ins and assaults of the ELDERLY. Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how public safety has decreased, after such monumental effort and expense was expended in successfully ridding Australian society of guns. The Australian experience and the other historical facts above prove it.

You won't see this data on the US evening news, or hear politicians disseminating this information.

Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws adversely affect only the law-abiding citizens.

Take note my fellow Americans, before it's too late!

The next time someone talks in favor of gun control, please remind him of this history lesson.

With Guns...........We Are "Citizens".
Without Them........We Are "Subjects".

During W.W.II the Japanese decided not to invade America because they knew most Americans were ARMED !

Note: Admiral Yamamoto who crafted the attack on Pearl Harbor had attended Harvard U 1919-1921 & was Naval Attache to the U. S. 1925-28. Most of our Navy was destroyed at Pearl Harbor & our Army had been deprived of funding & was ill prepared to defend the country.


It was reported that when asked why Japan did not follow up the Pearl Harbor attack with an invasion of the U. S Mainland, his reply was that he had lived in the U. S. & knew that almost all households had guns.

If you value your freedom, Please spread this anti-gun control message to all your friends!

Great post Jim
 
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