Floor Drains!!!!!

David Saulque

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Over the years, I have one pet peeve and that would be new construction with floor drains that are raised at around .25 inch thus creating a floor drain that is not operative. Is there logic or just poor workmanship? The problem it adds so much to the larger jobs-when you drop to the floor and a barrel hangs is just not in the cards:mad:
 
Its just poor workmanship. I used to manage a steakhouse and we had a drain like that in our bar. It was a pain in the ass because like you said it is pretty much in operative and makes cleaning up horrible.
 
I think it's a health code violation. Needs to be reported to health inspector. If the filthy water is not going into the floor drain - where is it going?:eek:
 
Problem is that the pipe is laid before the floor is poured then they also don't compensate for the tile that goes on top as well so that is the main reason. Just boils down to poor workmanship and a bad walk thru inspection.
While we are on the subject of floor frain I allways ask when we arrive for a job if the floor drains work thats allways a nice feeling to watch the water stand in the clogged drain
 
Very few of the restuants in our service area have floor drains. After a bad experience with a floor drain that only looked like a floor drain, I now pour clean water down the drain. I remove the cover, pour some clean water down the drain and wait for the water to disappear. If if goes down the drain, we run the plastic into the drain and go to work. When we are done, the drain always works better than before our arrival.

Ever notice how some of the floor drains, even if level with the floor or below the floor level do not drain. Sometimes the floor slopes away from the drain.

The average construction inspection takes less than 10 minutes. Two weeks ago, I got an inspection on a suppression system install. I spent more than 2 hours with the new fire inspector. We started at the gas supply, working throught the suppression system, appliance placement, hood and duct, duct insulation, access panels, and ended with the new fan. We got a new kitchen account last week. The fire suppression system was serviced just before our arrival. Or at least the links were changed. I found 10 deficiencies in the hood system, the suppression system, and the fuel system. I did not look at the sprinkler system or the alarm system or the fire extinguishers. The customer asked why the other suppression system service agency did not find those problems. I did not have an answer for him except that I could only be responsible for my companies actions. I did tell my customer that the other agency did not appear at a recent training program. Jon and I however did attend all three days of classes. We also also answered questions from some of the 65 inpectors at one of the classes. We made some important contacts with inspectors from our area.
 
Doug,
You bring up some really good points and a great marketing angle as well. The fire marshalls are our best friends cause if it was not for them we would never get any calls. I work closely with fire marshalls and health inspecors from 3 counties around me and it has been mutually benificial for both of us. They get the hoods cleaned and I get some work. they are not allowed to reccomend a hood service but we do a good job advertising and I have picked up a few accounts from it. Likewise one of my accounts that opened 3 months ago just had thier first cleaning. I told them the links were installed wrong and they needed to call the install company that was 3 states away. The install company said no way and wouldn't come out .The GM of the store called me and I told him to call the fire marshall who went by that day saw the problem and called the company himself to let them know what was up. they had it fixed in 4 days and were very happy.
 
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Alexy, I see you have the same clumsy fingers I have. I find I need to check spelling at least twice in my postings.

Our new Fire Marshall is asking questions, and will be a great asset to us. He is aware that he needs to rely on good contractors, just as we need to rely on him. We are fortunate that we have 2 State Fire Marshalls that like our work, and a local builing inspector that likes our work. None of these people can reccommend us, but they can tell people that they have heard we do good work, and they can use us as examples. The suppression system we started a week ago was because of on the inspectors. He said nice things about us and the general contractor did not even make any other calls. A job we completed 2 weeks ago came to us because of the inspectors. I priced that job $700.00 more than the competion & still got the job because we were recommended. Good inspectors are a joy to work with, bad inspectors are a PIA to work with.
 
I fixed the typos
Douglas Hicks
National Spelling Bee Judge and Grammar Captian of Eastern Oregon
General Fire Equipment Co of Eastern Oregon, Inc
Baker City, OR 97814
541.523.7600 Voice
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I get $ 60 bucks a drain to unstop them .... All the stores I clean have drains..except a couple .. Then I use my wet vac ( pump ) shop vac makes a good pump wet vac on sale at lowes for $99.00 .. You have to remove the pump filter though .. Mine usually last about 3 months.. We also use it when we clean interior flooring... or when we clean the golfish ponds in the richy neighbor hoods.

I had a guy from RYDER Truck rentals call me today wanting me to clean some trucks ..
OH DAMN here we go again what else am I going to start cleaning...
I am so behind on my fire equipment accounts ... I guess it's time to hire again..

B&R Fire Protection is turning into B&R Everything Company....
I have even had a lady call me to install a window unit air condition in her kitchen ... WTF .... ???? It was real funny when I puled up I noticed there were no windows in her block building kitchen .. What could I do ( so I drove away really fast )
 
My point was that the drain is raised so that the water will not flow into the drain. So, we must wet vac and sweep to the drain and over the hump.
 
David
A cheap water barrier that can be re-used and stores pretty easy are some of the "pool noodles" just duct tape them to the floor and you can channel the water or just hold it in a area to keep from running under the equipment
 
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Yeah rags work!
We used the noodles alot since they can be wedged under alot of equipment and will hold, if not duct tape them to the floor to channel water or just hold it in an area.When they get nasty after a few uses they go in the dumpster withthe plastic sheeting on thier last job.
 
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