Dumb Things That Can Kill

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David Saulque

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Last week I was talking to a very reliable person who told me about a situation that you cleaners will find it hard to believe. There is an Indian Casino in the East that has been open for two years with multi kitchens and hoods. The systems are all Gaylord Waterwash. The problem is all of the duct work is Class two. All vertical and laterals are Class Two The contractor is complaining because the Waterwash spray is causing leaks in the duct work. This without a doubt is the single most ridiculous things I have run across. Everything was signed off by AHJ and Fire:eek: :eek: :eek:
 
I can't believe people are still installing class two ducts in exhaust systems, and getting away with it.:mad: What surprises me the most though, is that class two duct was installed on a water wash system.:eek:
 
It simply does not matter, waterwash or filter, Class Two shall not be used as per NFPA96. I just don’t understand how this could happen in 2008.
 
David, Sad but true. Indian Casino's are on Reservation property. They can pick and choose what code to use. The General Contractor probably cheaped out on the bid , and you get what you pay for. That being said, there was probably no building inspector either.
 
That is not true in California - & when it comes to public safety and fire code I am not sure you are right. This unit is out of code and the contractor is being told to replace the duct work.
 
Michael T said:
David, That is a debated subject in California. Tribal Land as a Sovern Nation. Obviously they want it both ways. But the fact of the matter is, the duct is substandard or not compliant to code.
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Regardless it does not negate their liability and the insurance wont pay if there is an issue. I doubt insurance would cover it if they knew, there probably just taking it being signed off as assuming it's to code. And again if theres an issue and they find out about it after the fact during the investigation they still won't pay off.
 
Speaking of insurance and civil liability. If you do work on an Indian Reservation your civil liabilities and remedys are bizzare to say the least. Indian reservations are under the US code a sovrien yet concurrent country within the United States. Civil case law does not apply on indian reservations and the case is heard by a Tribal court system that has no appeal on cases up to $25,000, just be fore-warned
 
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