Do you bid by GLA?

Do you bid by GLA?

  • Yes, a lot

    Votes: 1 7.1%

  • Sometimes

    Votes: 8 57.1%

  • No

    Votes: 3 21.4%

  • I just eyeball it....

    Votes: 2 14.3%
  • Total voters
    14
Tony Shelton

Tony Shelton

BS Detector, Esquire
How many of you guys bid by GLA? Is this a good idea?

Is bidding by GLA accurate enough to reflect the amount of time and work involved?

(I've been bidding air filter service and coil cleaning by google earth and windows live maps for a long time. It sure is a lot easier than climbing on the roof or measuring. I bid over 500 cell phone towers using google earth to tell me the distance between them for an accurate idea of time and fuel costs. I've turned google on its side to see what the elevation looks like to determine which sites would need 4wd.)

For example I bid this guy (let's just say over $40k per year) for a three year contract including filters,evap cleaning and condenser cleaning. The filters will cost me $8k the first year, after that it's all labor at the rate of 35 hours each quarter for two guys. This guy doesn't want to separate the coils and filters from the current provider of his HVAC maintenance and it won't come up for bid again till next spring. I might sweeten the pot by submitting my next bid with surface cleaning included for an additional cost.

Would you bid this by GLA?
 

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Tony

here is one way to do it. go measure the area onsite first. ( one in your local area for this )
then..... back into that price using the GLA. I have done that with projects here and it works out OK.
You also have to remember that your not looking at .05/sqft with GLA. (at least not here) Since its a larger area it'll be lower.
At least that's my experience here
 
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I wanted to add that sometimes you get a phone call from the PM saying our center is 80,000 sqft, they never seem to know the sw measurement.
thats why I suggested testing a local center to get the feel of the pricing.

Just ask a lot of questions regarding whats there.
Poles,planters and such...and of course late night bars. They always close late or early and make it fun to work around.
 
Tony,

How high will your lift go? When are you going to start doing the Bellagio and the Palazzo?

Seeing your google earth pic is making me miss Vegas again.
 
Jonathan Ellis said:
Tony,

How high will your lift go? When are you going to start doing the Bellagio and the Palazzo?

Seeing your google earth pic is making me miss Vegas again.
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That picture was taken from the lift..:cool: I'm going into competition with google.. I'm going to call it Bil-Jax earth.
 
David O'Connell Jr said:
Tony

here is one way to do it. go measure the area onsite first. ( one in your local area for this )
then..... back into that price using the GLA. I have done that with projects here and it works out OK.
You also have to remember that your not looking at .05/sqft with GLA. (at least not here) Since its a larger area it'll be lower.
At least that's my experience here
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Thanks guys. I'll try that today.
 
GLA stands for gross leasable area
 
Tony

What do you bid cell towers for?

I can't imagine bidding sidewalks without seeing them, ever. I trust that my system can roll through any job, but concrete is a fickle maiden. I would always have to put my eyes on it. Some cement is thousands of times harder and more time consuming to clean. But apparently some make it work, the thing is, I think you would need to have massive power, multiple machines and a fast system.
 
tomtucson said:
Tony

What do you bid cell towers for?

I can't imagine bidding sidewalks without seeing them, ever. I trust that my system can roll through any job, but concrete is a fickle maiden. I would always have to put my eyes on it. Some cement is thousands of times harder and more time consuming to clean. But apparently some make it work, the thing is, I think you would need to have massive power, multiple machines and a fast system.
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so lets see you are in Arizona, lets say a pm calls you and wants you to bid on 48 shopping centers in Nevada and Utah and you have less that 2 weeks to get the bid in, do you ride around for weeks measuring and looking or find a way to do it w/o that?
 
tomtucson said:
Tony

What do you bid cell towers for?

I can't imagine bidding sidewalks without seeing them, ever. I trust that my system can roll through any job, but concrete is a fickle maiden. I would always have to put my eyes on it. Some cement is thousands of times harder and more time consuming to clean. But apparently some make it work, the thing is, I think you would need to have massive power, multiple machines and a fast system.
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Every cell tower has an at least one air conditioner, almost all have two. An HVAC company and I went together and bid over 500 sites.

The plan was for them to service the units (belts, motors, etc quarterly and tap the dust out of our filters. We would also service quarterly cleaning the filters only.

That way these remote towers had a human presence at them every 1 1/2 months. The regional director we were working with had a heart attack and the HVAC manager left to work for another company. This was 6 months ago and we haven't gotten back together on this since. They probably won't do anything till the first units start to break down in the spring.
 
Russ Spence said:
so lets see you are in Arizona, lets say a pm calls you and wants you to bid on 48 shopping centers in Nevada and Utah and you have less that 2 weeks to get the bid in, do you ride around for weeks measuring and looking or find a way to do it w/o that?
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Gotta agree with Russ here. There is a max limit they are going to spend here. They could care less about the fact that your machine isn't big enough or that the concrete hasn't been cleaned in a decade.

I do understand COMPLETELY where your coming from here. I've lost jobs because I COULDN'T get to look at them.

I've bid jobs on the west coast of FL (we are on the east) and I viewed from Google. I bid 6K for the job. It took 3 days. I was guessing 2. I still did OK.
 
tomtucson said:
Tony

What do you bid cell towers for?

I can't imagine bidding sidewalks without seeing them, ever. I trust that my system can roll through any job, but concrete is a fickle maiden. I would always have to put my eyes on it. Some cement is thousands of times harder and more time consuming to clean. But apparently some make it work, the thing is, I think you would need to have massive power, multiple machines and a fast system.
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Tom, We have million and millions of feet within a few miles. I may have billions within 1 hour any direction.

They are truly mobile contractors in some other states.

It just another way, it works on average. Its not a formula for single operation.

I believe Russ would agree with me on that.

I bid stuff by you without seeing it as long as we are on 30 day or more agreements. Plus we get a site plan with the actaul size of the concrete.

Either way it works...
 
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