Difference in hoses

The Cleaner

Vetran Washer 30 Years Plus
I always used R2 hose because of all the draging and high heat used. We are in the process of building a new rig and I was thinking about going with R1 because this rig will be strickly residential? The hoses will be hooked up to 2 8gpm @3500psi cold water units, will the R1 hold up for this application?
 

Tony Shelton

BS Detector, Esquire
Nick, I can't tell any difference. For the first 2 or 3 years I got 2 wire because that's what everyone said to get.

Then I bought a 1 wire in an emergency on a Sunday from the only place that was open and it was lighter, more flexible and worked great.

I had more two wire hoses pop at the connectors than the R1. None of my 1 wires have ever popped in the middle.

Is it possible that the two wires rubbing together create more problems than they solve?

The last three 1 wire I've had lasted so long the skin wore off but we kept them going till metal started poking us. When the metal starts showing we flip them around so that the less used half gets some action.

We even have semis running over them and even parking on them at the fuel station we clean and they are still going strong.

I've even got Chris switched over to 1 wire now.
 

Guy Blackmon

Roundtable Host 2009
A lot of variables to long lasting hose....the maker, usage, heat, unloader and something not a lot of guys think about....Spike or Trapped Pressure (Learned The Hard Way). Pays to keep a PSI gauge on the truck.
 

Ron Musgraves

Exterior Restoration Specialist
Staff member
After 27 years I have seen hose last well an they fall apart, use to swear by goodyear, there hose doesn't last as long. It may still be better but is not not worth paying more for it.

I struggle with this each time we make orders, I can't stand getting a Pallet (yes) pallet of hose an they do not last how they should.

This is a problem , I always think we should have someone helping us not get ripped off.
 

Ron Musgraves

Exterior Restoration Specialist
Staff member
Please the guy that gets on here an says my hose last all year, Please your rig is all shiny too. So not stupid talk here, if you get a hose to last 90 days of heavy use your a lucky man. I do not care who you are or what your doing.
 

Ron Musgraves

Exterior Restoration Specialist
Staff member
Nick, I think Tony is close, I have seen manufacturing going down hill. Two wire hose is not being made properly, the one wire hose we also use on the ends. We have 200 2 wire , stupid but the one wire 50 end is out lasting the 200 2 wire section.

True story Nick, its bullshit I know.
 

Ron Musgraves

Exterior Restoration Specialist
Staff member
Scott, at the rate your tossing throw them in the corner I'll repair give you half of them back.
 

Benjamin

New member
I think what you use the hose for is the primary factor in how long its going to last. I have talked to guys that use hoses from the same supplier get way less life out them then I do, but we work different parts of the industry as well. Pulling long stretches of hose really does a number on them I have noticed. The wires get stretched more and as do the connections at either end with a longer hose run. Doing cement, parkades, semi's + trailers, car lots, and even residential stresses a hose more then what I typically do, heavy equipment. I only pull out a 100 ft or less off the reel most times and I don't typically have to worry about getting caught on rubber tires or getting run over.

My truck is not shiny, I have had to repair 2 of 3 houses due to crappy bend restrictors this past year. Both got new ends and new bend restrictors and are running fine and have been on my main hose reel for 1.5 years now. My buddy who does mostly trucks/trailers and parkades blows a hose weekly, same supplier, same hose, different part of the industry.

Is there a perfect hose out there, probably not. Just remember when pricing out large jobs with big hose runs to price in the cost of a hose or two. Also keep in mind when pulling hose around the longer the run the more strain you are putting on it by just pulling from the gun.

Probably also helps that since I paid for the hoses I generally take pretty good care of them and do my best to keep them out of harms way. I am sure an employee wouldn't go through the effort I do to make sure the hose is not run over or things like that.
 

HighTide

New member
I am going to try out a new brand of hose for my hot water cleaning. I have always used the Goodyear 4,500 psi R2 hose and I just bought a 5,400 psi R2 grey non-marking made by Scheiffer. Never used one before and bought a 100-foot one on a recommendation. Hopefully, I will stand up like the Goodyear's. Anybody else use Schieffer hoses?
 

Pressurized

New member
So Ron, what do you recommend for a good 1 wire the goodyear neptune or what... what are you guys running? I want what Ron or Tony has
 

Riley Harth

New member
Im rockin 2 wire blue goodyear i like it aways use for hot and during longer uses. also have some 1 wire cheapo thats great for easy stuff

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Pressurized

New member
Just ordered 150' of 1 wire Neptune .... going to see how good it is. Non marking gray

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Pressurized

New member
I did consider the e spec hose from Envirospec but they were not open yesterday to discuss them.

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Scott Stone

New member
Stay away from the serpentine hose. I could barely get a month out of it, when others would last a year. Your mileage may vary.
 

tomtucson

New member
Apparently there is mandril and mandril-less hose. I thought hose would be made in some continuous process, and some is, but the better quality is made around an inner pipe and then baked - meaning 300' oven, not many in the world apparently. I don't know which are or not, I think the big names are. I think hose manufacture has all moved out of the country - a dirty industry. The quality of Chinese hose is improving and about 25% make a quality hose now. Got schooled on all this from United Hose. By the way, try and find 300' continuous in 1/2" - difficult.
 
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