Cliven Bundy vs BLM
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I'm no cattle Rancher but I stayed at Don's Camp, one of the largest Ranchs in Arizona an met real Cowboys who Camp on the Range watching the Heard.
Doesn't Take a Rocket Scientist when they wanted the cattle to come to the Pins they fed them and provided water. Sure they was Stranglers but eventually they came in to Eat the good Stuff. Alfalfa These are Desert cows but they are animals an like us know when something Taste better than weeds
Using Helicopters, do these guys think they are Ted Nudget ???
Now I'm afraid they are going to pull a Waco ruby ridge, when did our GOV back away for leave any place? Its Never happened in History I'm afraid, I will Pray for these freedom Fighters and we as Free Men Needs to start Speaking out with our wallets.( not Citizens) If this is allowed Washington should be the next ruby Ridge
Doesn't Take a Rocket Scientist when they wanted the cattle to come to the Pins they fed them and provided water. Sure they was Stranglers but eventually they came in to Eat the good Stuff. Alfalfa These are Desert cows but they are animals an like us know when something Taste better than weeds
Using Helicopters, do these guys think they are Ted Nudget ???
Now I'm afraid they are going to pull a Waco ruby ridge, when did our GOV back away for leave any place? Its Never happened in History I'm afraid, I will Pray for these freedom Fighters and we as Free Men Needs to start Speaking out with our wallets.( not Citizens) If this is allowed Washington should be the next ruby Ridge
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Congrats on the Grandson Tony!!!
I wonder when the people will get sick of the federal govt turning this great nation into a police state... Truly sad.
I wonder when the people will get sick of the federal govt turning this great nation into a police state... Truly sad.
Tony Shelton
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Went back today. The highway patrol tried to trick Cliven last night at 2 in the morning by telling him to come out by himself because they found two of his cattle dead on the highway. Radio chatter said nothing about cattle so he refused to go.
Spoke to Ammon after the press conference today and asked if he wanted us to stay to fight off any attacks. He said he would appreciate it if we would.
We are going to try to get a radio from the militia and set up a spot wherever they need us.
Harry Reid said this isn't over yet and people can't break the law without suffering the consequences.
Somebody needs to make Harry face the consequences for what he has done. He needs to be locked up.
Here is Shelly Shelton on the stage with other politicians and law enforcement from many states.
And talking with Michele Fiore thanking he for her help.
And with Sheriff Mack who called on all Sheriffs across the country to disarm all federal rangers nationwide.
We went into town for supplies. Heading back to do whatever we are instructed to do.
Please say some prayers that law enforcement will stand down and refuse to shoot their own people.
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Tony Shelton
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At the ranch. If you guys hear anything let me know. There are lots of militia here.
Last night the hwy patrol tries to trick Cliven at 2am telling him to come get two of his cattle that were killed on the highway. Yet there was no radio chatter about a down cow, so he didn't fall for it.
Was told they found cattle partially buried where they were held.
Shelly got this picture of the last calf born just when they released them
Pray for us and let me know if you hear anything about any raids coming.
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Last night the hwy patrol tries to trick Cliven at 2am telling him to come get two of his cattle that were killed on the highway. Yet there was no radio chatter about a down cow, so he didn't fall for it.
Was told they found cattle partially buried where they were held.
Shelly got this picture of the last calf born just when they released them
Pray for us and let me know if you hear anything about any raids coming.
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Glad to hear your all well, good to see locals Police and others in Gov Helping. Flores have any power? http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Ll5chfz1qFU/S9lvYgeH_nI/AAAAAAAAF-0/S2S-eJOwUHk/s1600/gunbelt_800x600.jpg
Tony Shelton
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She is up and coming.
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They had some reason for that Hal. They tried to explain it but I didn't understand it. I'm a city boy.
The are guessing from looking at the cows there are at least a dozen calves out there dying that hid in the bushes scared when the rest of them were rounded up.
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The are guessing from looking at the cows there are at least a dozen calves out there dying that hid in the bushes scared when the rest of them were rounded up.
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Tony Shelton
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Our view from the office this morning. All is good.
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Very tired. I have to thank Chris for keeping all our work going smoothly through this.
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Tony Shelton
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Wrong side of the Fence
On April 12 Nevadans and Americans got a taste of what the future of America looks like if drastic change doesn't come soon.
Cliven Bundy is one of a long line of Ranchers and Americans who have been forced out of business by endless regulations and a concerted criminal effort by left-wing fringe groups who use the complexity of the law to break the backs of hard working Americans.
The Gestapo Federal Agents, heavily armed came to steal his cattle, making the claim that he owes "grazing fees" to them.
The BLM, the Media and other local know it all pundits who chose to remain ignorant of facts, and surprisingly, even Fox News, never bothered to mention the fact that the United States government gave up the rights to charge grazing fees on that land in 1998 when they permanently sold the rights for the sum of $375,000 to Clark County, Nevada, the very entity that Bundy has been trying to pay.
I don't know about you, but I have sold rights to businesses before. Once the rights are sold, I have no more claim on future revenue, or past due accounts.
This "he owes a million in grazing fees" is the result of slick federal lawyers, working against a Rancher representing himself in court. These lawyers, who you pay for through your taxes, were able to use complex legal tactics to find a sympathetic judge to rule in their favor.
They have a lot of practice in this after their resounding defeat regarding another Rancher, Mr. Wayne Hage, who took on their abuse and with legal wrangling of his own, found a judge that understands the law and awarded him a 4.4 million dollar judgement in 2008, of which not one dime has ever been paid to he family. (BLM fails to pay it's own "fees"?)
To make matters even worse, the Federal Government Judge shopped and tried numerous legal tactics, many contradicting, till they got the ruling overturned. (Surprised?)
Which brings me to the Title - Wrong side of the Fence.
Mr. Bundy had only one place to turn. The courts failed Cliven Bundy. The courts failed Wayne Hage and years of turmoil took his life. His only help could come from the local Sheriff of Clark County, Doug Gillespie.
Many Sheriffs throughout the west have come to the aid of their citizens through similar situations.
But not Sheriff Gillespie. Nor the two clones running for his seat in the next election. Joe Lombardo and Larry Burns.
They literally chose to pull their command post and bus sized paddy wagons up to the negotiation fence on the side of the BLM FACING towards the American people who were there in protest. Lombardo even had the nerve to use this situation as a photo op by interviewing on TV and getting close enough to get a picture with Dave Bundy.
A Mr. Love, the negotiator for the BLM, who eventually ended up AT the fence negotiating with Bundy son's and the American people, was secretly audiotaped two days prior and recorded saying that they had the ability to arrest ALL the protesters and that we better come with "10,000" because he has seen our numbers and we don't have enough.
Being that the BLM didn't have any paddy wagons, how did Mr. Love know that the Sheriff would ride in licking BLM boots with more firepower and buses two days before the confrontation happened?
He knew beforehand that no matter what, Las Vegas Metro Police would be on the WRONG SIDE OF THE FENCE.
This confrontation isn't just about the federal government. It is about every law enforcement agency in the country that has turned against it's citizens and now stand on the wrong side of the fence
We have seen that together we can really make a difference.
While that ATV in the garage and a big mortgage may make a law enforcement officer point guns at innocent Americans, 2000 Americans lawfully armed and in control, will quickly turn the tables.
We, in Nevada have no law enforcement. We have paid assassins. What do you have in your city? Are there any constitutional Sheriffs or Law enforcement who are men enough to stand on your side of the fence?
If not, you need to step out and do everything you can to use the ballot box and the soap box to eliminate those who would stand on the wrong side of the fence.
by Shelly Shelton, Homemaker, Mother, Wife, Small business owner, American, and now Candidate for Nevada State Assembly.
On April 12 Nevadans and Americans got a taste of what the future of America looks like if drastic change doesn't come soon.
Cliven Bundy is one of a long line of Ranchers and Americans who have been forced out of business by endless regulations and a concerted criminal effort by left-wing fringe groups who use the complexity of the law to break the backs of hard working Americans.
The Gestapo Federal Agents, heavily armed came to steal his cattle, making the claim that he owes "grazing fees" to them.
The BLM, the Media and other local know it all pundits who chose to remain ignorant of facts, and surprisingly, even Fox News, never bothered to mention the fact that the United States government gave up the rights to charge grazing fees on that land in 1998 when they permanently sold the rights for the sum of $375,000 to Clark County, Nevada, the very entity that Bundy has been trying to pay.
I don't know about you, but I have sold rights to businesses before. Once the rights are sold, I have no more claim on future revenue, or past due accounts.
This "he owes a million in grazing fees" is the result of slick federal lawyers, working against a Rancher representing himself in court. These lawyers, who you pay for through your taxes, were able to use complex legal tactics to find a sympathetic judge to rule in their favor.
They have a lot of practice in this after their resounding defeat regarding another Rancher, Mr. Wayne Hage, who took on their abuse and with legal wrangling of his own, found a judge that understands the law and awarded him a 4.4 million dollar judgement in 2008, of which not one dime has ever been paid to he family. (BLM fails to pay it's own "fees"?)
To make matters even worse, the Federal Government Judge shopped and tried numerous legal tactics, many contradicting, till they got the ruling overturned. (Surprised?)
Which brings me to the Title - Wrong side of the Fence.
Mr. Bundy had only one place to turn. The courts failed Cliven Bundy. The courts failed Wayne Hage and years of turmoil took his life. His only help could come from the local Sheriff of Clark County, Doug Gillespie.
Many Sheriffs throughout the west have come to the aid of their citizens through similar situations.
But not Sheriff Gillespie. Nor the two clones running for his seat in the next election. Joe Lombardo and Larry Burns.
They literally chose to pull their command post and bus sized paddy wagons up to the negotiation fence on the side of the BLM FACING towards the American people who were there in protest. Lombardo even had the nerve to use this situation as a photo op by interviewing on TV and getting close enough to get a picture with Dave Bundy.
A Mr. Love, the negotiator for the BLM, who eventually ended up AT the fence negotiating with Bundy son's and the American people, was secretly audiotaped two days prior and recorded saying that they had the ability to arrest ALL the protesters and that we better come with "10,000" because he has seen our numbers and we don't have enough.
Being that the BLM didn't have any paddy wagons, how did Mr. Love know that the Sheriff would ride in licking BLM boots with more firepower and buses two days before the confrontation happened?
He knew beforehand that no matter what, Las Vegas Metro Police would be on the WRONG SIDE OF THE FENCE.
This confrontation isn't just about the federal government. It is about every law enforcement agency in the country that has turned against it's citizens and now stand on the wrong side of the fence
We have seen that together we can really make a difference.
While that ATV in the garage and a big mortgage may make a law enforcement officer point guns at innocent Americans, 2000 Americans lawfully armed and in control, will quickly turn the tables.
We, in Nevada have no law enforcement. We have paid assassins. What do you have in your city? Are there any constitutional Sheriffs or Law enforcement who are men enough to stand on your side of the fence?
If not, you need to step out and do everything you can to use the ballot box and the soap box to eliminate those who would stand on the wrong side of the fence.
by Shelly Shelton, Homemaker, Mother, Wife, Small business owner, American, and now Candidate for Nevada State Assembly.
Shelly Shelton for president of the United States,
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i am going to order four of these. Do you have any idea what the range is? Can you extend the range with a vehicle antenna?
After the data being shut down I am convinced if this situation ever happens again the entire cell service will be shut down.
"We're the government, and we're here to help". lol.
According to Harry Reid we are domestic terrorists now.
But the Ftl Hood shootings were just workplace violence. lol.