Certification vs Non Certification

Przrat

New member
Lets be realistic. All you "certified" guys out there paid some serious dollars to get certified. Bet there isnt one person out there that spent the dough that is gonna bad mouth it. Its like admitting you screwed up and wasted a big chunk of money. Providing that the school was a bust. If it gets you off the ground, making money, YEEEEE HAWWWWW. Thats what we are trying to do, isn't it. Make Money? If the school points you in a straight line to your goal, I am all for it.
Some of us have managed to make money when there wasnt a reputible school within our reach or finances. I can afford a school now but dont need it. When I was starting out the $500.00 for the Black Magic School was a lot but I went for it. It was mostly a Joke. I was able to drive there which saved some money.
I look at the schools now as a tool. A tool that helps a person who wants to go into business avoid the wasted money one can spend attempting to learn a business. A shortcut to purchasing the correct equipment for their particular area. A shortcut to pinpointing the particular type of customer one might focus on. Realistically there are plenty of customers in the food service industry besides fast food and restaurants. Helping new business owners do the job efficiently and up to the standards is also a plus.
Setting up a hood cleaning business in New York City is a hell of a lot different than in rural Indiana. Pulling a rig around the city is a real problem, but there is a lot of business there. Just not much room to manuver. Downsizing is crucial there. Keeping it small but effective. City work vs Rural. Two different set ups. Not according to many new TGP members.
This is where the rub is between a lot of "certified "and non certified Hood cleaners. Most of the certified ones think that the way they do it is the only way. NOT. You have to mould your business to your areas of operation, the type customer and your finances. It is not black and white. But after spending $1500.00 or $5000.00 whatever they paid, the graduates seem to think they know it all. Especially most of TGP.
How many of you guys have thought that they had seen every type of fan set up there was to see, then you come upon a real Prize. One that just takes your breath away. You go HOLY CRAP! One often has to modify, adjust, and comprimise to get some jobs done. You also have to consider the customer. What do you do as a new business owner, when a potential customer says, just clean the hood? I don't want the duct cleaned. Does the customer have the right to clean what he wants or do you try to dictate to him? Try this, I want only one side of my building pressure washed. AHHHH OK. Can you just clean the filters? The answer is yes. Clean what they want.
You can site "THE NFPA CODES". That all depends of what the AHJ feels about the codes, (RECOMMENDATIONS), tru?
Just dont put up a sticker, and make out a detailed compliance report. Right?

I guess I feel that someone that has decided to go into this business, certification is a good thing providing that it can jump start a business. The money spent on the school is a good investment if it shows you how to do the job quickly , profitably and up to code. Also, if it prevents you from purchasing the wrong equipment and shows you that many of the things you try to avoid paying for will cost you a lot more in the end if you dont do it now.
Many of the cranky established business owners look at the certification school as a waste of money. Especially if the AHJ Why, because , hopefully, we adhere to the codes, already know how to do the job, already have the equipment we need and have a solid customer base. Probably the same way a restaurant owner feels when he has to clean the hood system. No return on the investment. Different story for a new guy.

GO PATRIOTS
 
Especially if the AHJ doesnt inforce or even give a **** about the codes.
 
I see some of the points about vetrans, I still think you can always learn something no matter how long you have been around.

I think all new guys should seek help with a good program before jumping in.

even getting a mentor before making the investment would be wise if you can afford the class or before you made the decision.
 
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