Breach of Contract

Been through this many times. You will get the shuffle for months....then there will be a claim that somebody was dissatisfied with your work, or maybe the claim that they just now realized that someone else had to be called and paid to fix whatever you did wrong. Meanwhile they are doing the same thing with all their vendors that will take it. Usually a letter of intent from the lawyer will get them to pay up if they have it. If they don't, you will at least get a portion of what you are owed in the inevitable bankruptcy that is coming.

Early on, like DJ was saying, I would try to play nice on those big jobs like that. But over the years I've found out that in the end, if they don't leave you screwed on this job, they will eventually leave you screwed on another. And either way you'll spend half your time chasing the money.

You don't need to play nice with people who operate like that. Eventually they will either go under or new managment will come in who will realize what scum they were and respect you for telling them to take a hike. Then you can build a relationship.

At this point trying to build a relationship with them would be like trying to marry a hooker.

Life is too short to deal with con artists.
 
Tony Shelton said:
Been through this many times. You will get the shuffle for months....then there will be a claim that somebody was dissatisfied with your work, or maybe the claim that they just now realized that someone else had to be called and paid to fix whatever you did wrong. Meanwhile they are doing the same thing with all their vendors that will take it. Usually a letter of intent from the lawyer will get them to pay up if they have it. If they don't, you will at least get a portion of what you are owed in the inevitable bankruptcy that is coming.

Early on, like DJ was saying, I would try to play nice on those big jobs like that. But over the years I've found out that in the end, if they don't leave you screwed on this job, they will eventually leave you screwed on another. And either way you'll spend half your time chasing the money.

You don't need to play nice with people who operate like that. Eventually they will either go under or new managment will come in who will realize what scum they were and respect you for telling them to take a hike. Then you can build a relationship.

At this point trying to build a relationship with them would be like trying to marry a hooker.

Life is too short to deal with con artists.
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Exactly Tony, like I said earlier I'm more venting here then anything else I know what to do and how this will play out.

The lesson here is you always need a contract and you have to be ready to not get paid or incur the expense of legal action, it is an unfortunate risk of being in business but a good contract can help mitigate your losses.
 
I had someone do that to me once. Sent me a check, and then demanded I return it, because they did not have money in their account. I did not return the check, and they left me twisting in the wind for a few months, so one beautiful morning, my wife took the check to the bank, and tried to cash it. Lo and behold, it cleared. They had made a partial payment, and less then 24 hours later, they were asking when they were going to get their excess money back. The check was already in the mail. They were shocked. Not everyone has to be dishonest, or a thief to be able to prosper in business.
 
I am so sick of chasing money- If they pull nonsense, as this seems to be, the company will continue until it's sold or new management filters through. Good companies pay just about the same date every month. Others have excuses and pay one date one month and 60 days late the next. Get behind with 5 figures and it can sink a ship or eat all of your savings. I used to think- oh I can save this- I cant afford to go without this money every other month.

Not really- good work finds other customers that play on the same field. Do the work without incident or problems and get paid as per signed contract.

Glad I can vent with! Chasing money (and not $200 residential) can be a full time job that in the end will cost you at least one of those so called money makers
 
As a rule i never deposit checks unless i absolutely have no other choice. Cash them then deposit the cash whenever possible. May not work so well for the more established guys, but for small timers like me, helps me avoid these kinds of headaches.
 
John,
Let me know who these Jack Wagons are so when they call for something I can refuse. You will most likely get paid if all your T,s are crossed just sucks about the aggravation.
 
Lee_Henderson said:
As a rule i never deposit checks unless i absolutely have no other choice. Cash them then deposit the cash whenever possible. May not work so well for the more established guys, but for small timers like me, helps me avoid these kinds of headaches.
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I have never heard of a bank that will cash a check made out to a business.
 
Sounds like some serious tax avoidance scheme

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Sounds like some serious tax avoidance scheme

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offdutyfireman said:
I have never heard of a bank that will cash a check made out to a business.
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Their own bank will convert it to a cashiers check though William. Shelly did thatis quite a bit when she was registering fleets of vehicles for companies. The check might be over $100K and her profit only $4K or so. She couldn't take a chance on that bouncing so she would slam it at their bank.

We learned that from the car dealerships. They do it a lot with customer checks.

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bigchaz said:
Sounds like some serious tax avoidance scheme

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Not really. When u are a sole proprietor you can have checks made out you personally, you or the company name or just the company name.


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Johnson said:
They don't. He probably has the checks made out to him.
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BINGO. You get the cookie. Says it right on my invoice. Keeping in mind guys, i've only been @ this since the first week of Jan. And i'm not generating enough revenues to even have a company account yet. As business &the profits increase i'll have to change that. But for right now it worx. And for the record i pay my taxes belive me. Who do i look like Mitt Romney or Warren Buffet? And there are more places to cash checks than the bank. Some of you who grew up on my side of the tracks will know that.
 
The banks have change there rules like crazy the past couple of years. Chase bank right next to my local bagel shop I go to almost every morning refused to let me exchange some US currency for different US currency bills unless I had an account there..

Years ago I use to cash some checks at my 7-11 store because I was always in there and they most of the time never had a problem doing that.. That was then. Today I can't even get a bank to exchange out US currency straight up or even exchange it out at all.. Such as my local Chase bank..

Business checks if it's the banks check once again they want a fee if they even are willing to cash them. I thought about doing that recently because I'm holding a check now that this company keeps telling us to wait to cash it.. Tomorrow I'm going in that companies bank to see if the funds are there then and of they are I'm going to my bank to deposit it in my business account. Better to do that then have the check bounce and now it takes forever to get a new check.

The games these people play....
 
John, for about $10 most banks will convert that to a cashiers check. Sometimes the bank will require that you have a letter from your bank stating that you are a signer on the business account. It's a pain in the butt, but it does guaranty that the money will go in YOUR account instead of bouncing later when all the other suckers they wrote checks to begin depositing their checks ahead of you.
 
Oh these guys paid me, then they needed me to sign a lein waiver to refi the complex, they're still waiting to get that, lol!
 
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