BArry Please ask some questions here about the UAMCC certification

I actually think a video response is a good way for someone not to interpret a tone or read things into what they read. I know on more than one occasion I have had private conversations with someone only to discover we were misunderstanding each others points and that was causing issues. Phone calls are good too. Of course it seems in this case no form of communication will be agreeable to both parties.
 
Barry, I PM'd you at the inferior board before I was banned and explained to you that Ron has never deleted any of your posts. John, deleted many and was banned. Would you please confirm this with Russ Spence, Steven Button, Doug Rucker, Scott Stone or anyone else who has the controls to go back and confirm this and discontinue this thought process that has obviously tainted your opinion of Ron and this board?

You are currently posting regularly on a board where the admin deletes posts and bans at her whim without the benefit of counsel from other mods and admins. I find it curiously funny that, as acute as you are about things, that you have developed such an inverse opinion of the two boards in exact reverse of reality.

Please confirm what I am saying and be man enough to let everyone know you have made a mistake in your claim.

Thanks Barry.
 
I dont think it is Beth screwing with TGS. It is the guy who has been removed as mod at multiple boards that is the root cause of all the post deletion problems. Beth is just really hesitant to remove him for some reason.
 
Scott Stone said:
I dont think it is Beth screwing with TGS. It is the guy who has been removed as mod at multiple boards that is the root cause of all the post deletion problems. Beth is just really hesitant to remove him for some reason.
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Don't let her fool you Scott, once I was banned she personally went and warned Alexy about the same post I reposted. She is the culprit. Not John this time.
 
Tony Shelton said:
Barry, I PM'd you at the inferior board before I was banned and explained to you that Ron has never deleted any of your posts. John, deleted many and was banned. Would you please confirm this with Russ Spence, Steven Button, Doug Rucker, Scott Stone or anyone else who has the controls to go back and confirm this and discontinue this thought process that has obviously tainted your opinion of Ron and this board?

You are currently posting regularly on a board where the admin deletes posts and bans at her whim without the benefit of counsel from other mods and admins. I find it curiously funny that, as acute as you are about things, that you have developed such an inverse opinion of the two boards in exact reverse of reality.

Please confirm what I am saying and be man enough to let everyone know you have made a mistake in your claim.

Thanks Barry.
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I'll clear this up if you can confirm when was john removed as a Mod here.....
 
I'm man enough to admit when I'm wrong....I think you are as well Tony. If I'm wrong you'll hear me say it (type it).

If I'm right....I hope the same applies to anyone responsible.

Fair enough?
 
Tony Shelton said:
Deal.

Barry, I texted Doug and he is a new admin and is unaware of how to track actions on the forum.

Could you tell me what thread the post was in or give me some keywords to look for in the post you believe Ron removed?
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"someone removed"

When was John canned as admin?
 
I don't have the answer about John yet, but so far this is the only post of yours I found in the "moved or deleted thread" section.

One thing you need to remember is that nothing is deleted here. It is only moved to a "moved or deleted" section where it can be revived by future admins if necessary.

I know Russ has some way of looking deep into it and following every move made by every admin or mod.

We simply don't delete threads Barry.

What was the subject of the thread you say was deleted?
 
Tony Shelton said:
I don't have the answer about John yet, but so far this is the only post of yours I found in the "moved or deleted thread" section.

One thing you need to remember is that nothing is deleted here. It is only moved to a "moved or deleted" section where it can be revived by future admins if necessary.

I know Russ has some way of looking deep into it and following every move made by every admin or mod.

We simply don't delete threads Barry.

What was the subject of the thread you say was deleted?
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I know it was removed....I have no idea who did it and where it went.

I have all the details on this particular deleted post....you won't need to hunt.

If it were anyone but you asking Tony, I wouldn't waste my time....

I'll call John and ask him....I'm sure he remembers.
 
Tony Shelton said:
Barry, can you please give me some keywords from your post that is missing?
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On 9-9-2012 Ron started a thread about other forums banning people. http://www.propowerwash.com/board/upload/showthread.php?26894-Beware-of-getting-banned-other-Places

Here are the post ID's right before my post was deleted
#6 propowerwash.com/board/upload/showthread.php?26894-Beware-of-getting-banned-other-Places&p=283737&viewfull=1#post283737
#7 propowerwash.com/board/upload/showthread.php?26894-Beware-of-getting-banned-other-Places&p=283740&viewfull=1#post283740
#8 propowerwash.com/board/upload/showthread.php?26894-Beware-of-getting-banned-other-Places&p=283750&viewfull=1#post283750

My post was #7 (283740) Doug's was #6 (283737) and Art O's was #8 (283750)


Here is the screenshot one minute after I posted it.

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Vbulletin saves post by sequential number.....every post is assigned a number you can see this at the top right of the post. Click this number on any post and you can see the post ID number in the browser address bar. As you can see, post number 7 for that thread used to be my post....if you try and use the link, it shows that you don't have access to that post. Try it....

http://www.propowerwash.com/board/u...d-other-Places&p=283740&viewfull=1#post283740


The day before, I was posting in the Certification thread and it seemed like some of the posts were gone when I looked at the thread the next morning. I decided to save all the pages I posted in to see if my posts were being deleted. It didn't take long.....my post was gone within minutes.

I have the MHTML saved. MHTML is a current state web page complete version of HTML....if anyone thinks I'm lying, I'll email it to them.

In order to pull this off as a fake, I'd have to have had the luck that a post was deleted between posts 283737 and 283750 in that same thread....astronomical chances since it was gone in minutes.....and would have had to edit an html file to produce my original post #7 seen in the screenshot and the MHTML.

I suspect Ron did it because he was pissed off at me already, I had launched my roof cleaning directory and in an email that I sent him (prior to the announcement that UAMCC was launching Certs) I mocked useless Certs. He called me and yelled and preached at me for 30 minutes....eventually offering me an ultimatum that if I didn't endorse the UAMCC on the directory, he'd never recommend it on PWI. (We've both stuck to our positions.) It (my post) also contradicted Ron's statement that losing sig links hurt people.

I was already on the S-list when that post was deleted....I never made an issue out of it, I just moved along. It's his forum to do as he chooses.

So there's why I won't discuss the Cert Program here......Posts get deleted. It's an important issue and I don't want to discuss it at the forum owned by the person that is pushing the certs and allows this to happen on his forum (or does it himself)


So, who has to man up and admit wrong......me or one of the Mod's or Ron?
 
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