Swine Flu !!!!

El Flojo

El Flojo

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Is any one going to stop working due to the swine flu? How are you all hadeling it? you all be safe.
 
I have thought about using some sort of mask for my face, however the bills don't stop coming just because of this epidemic so I won;t stop working due to it either.
 
Educate yourself about it before you go putting yourself in a bubble.
 
I think that the media is blowing this way out of proportion. If you look at the Influenza A which is the normal flu, 36,000 people die annually. That is 3,000 people a month. The swine flu has been around for about the last two weeks or so and only one person has died from it and it was a Mexican National. As springtime goes on and turns into summer the flu season will die down. The people that have to worry about this special type of flu are the same people who have to worry about the regular flu that we have all experienced at one time or another, and those are the people that have worn down immune systems due to other pre-disposing illnessess. Or the people who do not have a fully developed immune systems yet.
 
Big E said:
I think that the media is blowing this way out of proportion. If you look at the Influenza A which is the normal flu, 36,000 people die annually. That is 3,000 people a month. The swine flu has been around for about the last two weeks or so and only one person has died from it and it was a Mexican National. As springtime goes on and turns into summer the flu season will die down. The people that have to worry about this special type of flu are the same people who have to worry about the regular flu that we have all experienced at one time or another, and those are the people that have worn down immune systems due to other pre-disposing illnessess. Or the people who do not have a fully developed immune systems yet.
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Big E you sound just like my wife....she said the same thing last night about the 36,000 people annually dieing. Her reply was is this really any worse than that..... guess we will see. In the mean time I am not going to mexico to clean any teracota houses...
 
This is a fantastic article, must read

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/04/29/Swine-Flu.aspx

"Give me a break, if this doesn't sound like the outlandish cries of the pandemic bird-flu I don't know what does. Do you remember when President Bush said two million Americans would die as a result of the bird flu?

In 2005, in 2006, 2007, and again in 2008, those fears were exposed as little more than a cruel hoax, designed to instill fear, and line the pocketbooks of various individuals and industry. I became so convinced by the evidence AGAINST the possibility of a bird flu pandemic that I wrote a New York Times bestselling book, The Bird Flu Hoax, all about the massive fraud involved with the epidemic that never happened.."

"Just a couple of months ago, scientists concluded that the 1918 flu pandemic that killed between 50-100 million people worldwide in a matter of 18 months -- which all these worst case scenarios are built upon -- was NOT due to the flu itself!4

Instead, they discovered the real culprit was strep infections"
 
It's amazing how that stuff gets twisted and exaggerated. If you actually read the USA today article it refers to HERE, George Bush was never quoted as saying that. It was stated by the New York Times that a government adviser said it. Kind of a friend of a friend story. Which is not hard to believe after all the contempt the Times has shown for anything other than the ultra left.

In any case it is knee jerk reaction stuff.

My wife got really mad when I refused to stock up on mega cases of water and canned goods when the bird flu panic got fired up a few years ago.
 
Here in the Dallas Ft. Worth area several school districts have closed down untill May 11th. And they are hiring pressure washing companies to wash all the exteriors of all the buildings with a bleach solution. Guess what I have been doing this morning? Calling every one of them!!!
 
2 confirmed cases in Alabama......they are shutting down some schools and cancelling high school sports for at least a week maybe 2
 
FYI

Swine Flu and the Spanish Flu of 1918
April 28, 2009 04:09 AM EDT
views: 2955 | rating: 10/10 (10 votes) | comments: 23

Here is some information I want to share that I gleaned from various on-line news stories about the rapidly evolving flu epidemic.




It has been a little over two weeks since the first case of swine flu was diagnosed in Mexico. As of April 27 the numbers of victims have risen to about 1600 cases and 149 confirmed deaths in Mexico. According to reports, Mexico does not have a very effective public health system and has been slow to inform and warn their population about the disease. Steps were not taken immediately to isolate patients who were sick with the swine flu.

Throughout the world alarms are ringing as new cases are being positively identified in rapidly rising numbers. The number of confirmed cases today in the United States was at 48 with 11 of those in Californi. The rest are scattered from Texas to New York where four cases occurred in one school.

Swine flu was discovered in 1930 as a respiratory disease that affected only pigs. Since then it has evolved into a variety that humans can catch, and now it is transmitted from one person to another. It is not caught directly from pigs, or from eating pork. It is known as type A H1N1, and Tamiflu is the only drug that is used as an effective treatment against swine flu .

The incubation period of swine flue is just three days. The symptoms are the same as other flu-like respiratory diseases, and include fever, cough, sore throat, body aches, headaches, chills, and fatigue. Some victims of swine flu also experience diarrhea and vomiting. But it takes a laboratory test to make a positive identification - a test that takes three days for the result. Scientists in Hong Kong, a place previously stricken with other virulent forms of flu including SARS, Asian flu, and bird flu, is mobilizing as many as 10,000 people - anyone and everyone who ever worked in the medical field in other flu epidemics, to battle the new swine flu. More important to the rest of the world, in addition to trying to develop a specific vaccine for swine flu, they are working to develop a test that will take only a few hours to make a positive identification of what kind of flu is affecting a patient.

As said above, so far there is no vaccine developed for this strain of flu, and any flu shots that were given to people this year will not prevent them from catching the new type of flu. The only effective drug for treatment against known cases of swine flu is Tamiflu. According to authorities in Hong Kong, the most flu-savvy area in the world, it takes a stockpile of at least 20,000 courses of Tamiflu to treat the possible cases in a population of about 7 million people.

What is most alarming about the current outbreak of swine flu is that it is the same Type A variety as that of Spanish Flu, the disease that was pandemic from September 1918 until June 1920. That flu strain killed more than twice as many people than died in World War I. In the United States Spanish flu first emerged at Camp Syracuse, NY, where recruits were living in close quarters in tents. The first recruits were treated casually at aid stations until some sicker men were sent to hospitals in the city of Syracuse, and the epidemic rose astronomically and proceeded to spread. It is estimated that 28% of the US population caught the Spanish flu and 500,000 to 650,000 people died of it. The epidemic spread around the globe extending into the Arctic and across the Pacific islands. 14% of the population of Fiji died of the disease. All told Spanish flu killed about 5% of the total population of the world between 1918 and 1920.

Considering the past devastation to the human race by various types of virulent flu, we have good reason to fear this current outbreak of swine flue, and we should take the best precautions possible. For the population as a whole the best possible defense against the disease is for anyone and everyone who even suspects he or she might be coming down with flu to just stay home and avoid any more human contact than necessary.

Since flu is especially dangerous to older people, I am increasing the varieties of fruits, vegetables, juices, and other protective foods that I eat. Also the old tried and true practices of drinking lots of liquids, moderate exercise, and getting plenty of rest are always good. They should avoid crowds as much as they can, wash their hands often, and possibly wear a good quality surgical mask to venture out among people.

But most of all for myself I plan to stay home and not mingle with other people more than I have to. I'll do my mingling on Gather and hope the new flu bug doesn't know how to break through the firewall.

I can see mountains in Mexico from my front window, and those flu viruses don't recognize borders. I live less than 5 miles from the Mexican border among the many paths taken by illegal immigrants on their way to San Diego where they can blend in with the large Latino population. They pass by in the night and who knows what infectious hitchhikers they may be carrying with them.

With the special press corps meeting at the White House on Sunday informing the American people of the danger of a possible epidemic of swine flu, and the continuing close attention by the government to every aspect of the danger we face, as well as giving us directions about what actions we should take, perhaps this time the spread of the disease can be halted, but we can't count on it.
 
Larry Hinckley said:
FYI

Swine Flu and the Spanish Flu of 1918
April 28, 2009 04:09 AM EDT
views: 2955 | rating: 10/10 (10 votes) | comments: 23

Here is some information I want to share that I gleaned from various on-line news stories about the rapidly evolving flu epidemic.




It has been a little over two weeks since the first case of swine flu was diagnosed in Mexico. As of April 27 the numbers of victims have risen to about 1600 cases and 149 confirmed deaths in Mexico. According to reports, Mexico does not have a very effective public health system and has been slow to inform and warn their population about the disease. Steps were not taken immediately to isolate patients who were sick with the swine flu.

Throughout the world alarms are ringing as new cases are being positively identified in rapidly rising numbers. The number of confirmed cases today in the United States was at 48 with 11 of those in Californi. The rest are scattered from Texas to New York where four cases occurred in one school.

Swine flu was discovered in 1930 as a respiratory disease that affected only pigs. Since then it has evolved into a variety that humans can catch, and now it is transmitted from one person to another. It is not caught directly from pigs, or from eating pork. It is known as type A H1N1, and Tamiflu is the only drug that is used as an effective treatment against swine flu .

The incubation period of swine flue is just three days. The symptoms are the same as other flu-like respiratory diseases, and include fever, cough, sore throat, body aches, headaches, chills, and fatigue. Some victims of swine flu also experience diarrhea and vomiting. But it takes a laboratory test to make a positive identification - a test that takes three days for the result. Scientists in Hong Kong, a place previously stricken with other virulent forms of flu including SARS, Asian flu, and bird flu, is mobilizing as many as 10,000 people - anyone and everyone who ever worked in the medical field in other flu epidemics, to battle the new swine flu. More important to the rest of the world, in addition to trying to develop a specific vaccine for swine flu, they are working to develop a test that will take only a few hours to make a positive identification of what kind of flu is affecting a patient.

As said above, so far there is no vaccine developed for this strain of flu, and any flu shots that were given to people this year will not prevent them from catching the new type of flu. The only effective drug for treatment against known cases of swine flu is Tamiflu. According to authorities in Hong Kong, the most flu-savvy area in the world, it takes a stockpile of at least 20,000 courses of Tamiflu to treat the possible cases in a population of about 7 million people.

What is most alarming about the current outbreak of swine flu is that it is the same Type A variety as that of Spanish Flu, the disease that was pandemic from September 1918 until June 1920. That flu strain killed more than twice as many people than died in World War I. In the United States Spanish flu first emerged at Camp Syracuse, NY, where recruits were living in close quarters in tents. The first recruits were treated casually at aid stations until some sicker men were sent to hospitals in the city of Syracuse, and the epidemic rose astronomically and proceeded to spread. It is estimated that 28% of the US population caught the Spanish flu and 500,000 to 650,000 people died of it. The epidemic spread around the globe extending into the Arctic and across the Pacific islands. 14% of the population of Fiji died of the disease. All told Spanish flu killed about 5% of the total population of the world between 1918 and 1920.

Considering the past devastation to the human race by various types of virulent flu, we have good reason to fear this current outbreak of swine flue, and we should take the best precautions possible. For the population as a whole the best possible defense against the disease is for anyone and everyone who even suspects he or she might be coming down with flu to just stay home and avoid any more human contact than necessary.

Since flu is especially dangerous to older people, I am increasing the varieties of fruits, vegetables, juices, and other protective foods that I eat. Also the old tried and true practices of drinking lots of liquids, moderate exercise, and getting plenty of rest are always good. They should avoid crowds as much as they can, wash their hands often, and possibly wear a good quality surgical mask to venture out among people.

But most of all for myself I plan to stay home and not mingle with other people more than I have to. I'll do my mingling on Gather and hope the new flu bug doesn't know how to break through the firewall.

I can see mountains in Mexico from my front window, and those flu viruses don't recognize borders. I live less than 5 miles from the Mexican border among the many paths taken by illegal immigrants on their way to San Diego where they can blend in with the large Latino population. They pass by in the night and who knows what infectious hitchhikers they may be carrying with them.

With the special press corps meeting at the White House on Sunday informing the American people of the danger of a possible epidemic of swine flu, and the continuing close attention by the government to every aspect of the danger we face, as well as giving us directions about what actions we should take, perhaps this time the spread of the disease can be halted, but we can't count on it.
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Good read,

The only difference in this flu now and the flue back in 1918 is forms of communication has grown dramatically, We can reach out to more people faster than they could back then, notifying a large populous of people quicker.

Also the health care system has made great advancements in the past 9 decades.

Yes this is something to be concerned about, But do not halt your life becasue of this.

Times of turmoil requires great adversity to over come the situation

John
 
I agree it needs to be treated seriously. Doesn't matter if it's Bush or Obama. If they do anything it's too much and it's over reacting, if nothing it's not taking it seriously enough. Sounds like most of us will get it just a matter of when and recognizing the symptoms.

Seems like the media focuses on these things when they want to avoid things like the socialization of auto makers and banks.
 
Swine Flu is NOTHING!!
Try working in a RAW SEWAGE PUMPING facility in Manhattan, where the hypodermic needles flushed down the sewers and toilets mix with everything else imaginable in the sanitary sewer system and get "screened out" and dropped into a 30 yard dumpster next to the entrance of the building...... then after you walk past all those used pieces of "latex" and needles and toilet paper... you get to try to work in a permit entry confined space all the time trying not to take your three pairs of surgical gloves off, just to scratch an itch on your nose under your half face dual cartridge respirator... If you want to have lunch (and most times you don't, just from the smell alone) you need to strip down, and apply about a quart of Purell just to even think about taking a bite out of that breakfast burrito you bought before work... Oh and forget about stopping to take a smoke break... I had to give up my beloved cigars for the time I worked there.... the saying on the jobsite was "You either get the poops, or the pukes, your choice"... So I don't think Swine Flu is going to be a problem here... even though we already have 17 confirmed cases here in NYC/Long Island...


Anyone wanna go to Cancun on vacation???


Rich
 
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