You watch this Tony? Interesting
- Thread starter Ron Musgraves
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Tony Shelton
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Ron, there is a lot of solid information there. Unfortunately, at about the 1 hour mark it became clear this was nothing more than an infomercial.
Most people have no idea how important keeping the dollar as the world standard is.
I'm not a financial expert. But I am an avid reader and student. I like to learn both sides to come to a conclusion. When Robert laid out his BMPs I'm sure he assumed they would sail through and no one would read them. Not only did I read them, but I also read literally thousands of pages of information on the EPA sites from federal to local. I used that information to take my stance.
I'm the same way in my business and family life.
In 2003 I started Sonitx as a backup company to run so that I could step out of the dry cleaning business and Shelly's document services business and diversify into something that wasn't so economy driven while allowing us some time to travel.
In 2005 I started seeing signs (through print and in person) that the economy was in for some trouble. Knowing that dry cleaning is a boom or bust business, in that, dry cleaning is service that could easily be drastically reduced during difficult times, I put it up for sale. I even told every single potential buyer that these were my beliefs so I could have a clean conscience should someone buy it then suffer afterwards in an economic depression. I sold it in 2006 and sure enough the economy began its collapse in 2008 here. I spoke to the gentleman who bought it last year and he thanked me for warning him before he bought it because it allowed him to get prepared and that is why he is still in business today.
I am seeing signs again. Just like this video says. The current "recovery" is a farce. It feels good and looks good, but is is just as false as the cheap loans that were doled out in the early 2000's.
There is no way to save it. I fully expect all of our businesses to suffer.
The banks are going to start restricting what you can take out in order to save their portfolio. But eventually, when the federal and local governments cannot pay their loans the banks will start closing their doors. All you have to do is take a look at Spain or Cyprus to see what is in store.
The banks are the reason for the internet. Without the political pull of the banks and other monetary trading institutions the internet as we know it is useless to the government.
Once the banks have collapsed there will be political excuse for keeping the internet unobstructed as it is now. The internet will cease to exist as we know it now. It will be restricted to the point where the general public will not be able to afford it.
We, personally have prepared for this in the following ways over the past three years:
1) Everything we do has a redundant paper backup.
2) Everything from scheduling to marketing can be done without the internet at all. We still use email for communications, but by keeping our own personal service base local we could hand deliver documents if we had to and still fulfill our contracts.
3) We have done everything we can to reduce our fuel use. We can switch to a light pickup truck and ladders at the drop of a hat if fuel cost or availability become an issue.
There are other things we have done businesswise regarding our relationships with our customers that I don't want to discuss here that would also keep us going during a full collapse.
Basically I took everything I learned from the 2008 collapse and shored up our business based on what I learned from that.
This is the value of not "forgetting" the past. Only a fool would fail to use the past in preparing for the future.
Most people have no idea how important keeping the dollar as the world standard is.
I'm not a financial expert. But I am an avid reader and student. I like to learn both sides to come to a conclusion. When Robert laid out his BMPs I'm sure he assumed they would sail through and no one would read them. Not only did I read them, but I also read literally thousands of pages of information on the EPA sites from federal to local. I used that information to take my stance.
I'm the same way in my business and family life.
In 2003 I started Sonitx as a backup company to run so that I could step out of the dry cleaning business and Shelly's document services business and diversify into something that wasn't so economy driven while allowing us some time to travel.
In 2005 I started seeing signs (through print and in person) that the economy was in for some trouble. Knowing that dry cleaning is a boom or bust business, in that, dry cleaning is service that could easily be drastically reduced during difficult times, I put it up for sale. I even told every single potential buyer that these were my beliefs so I could have a clean conscience should someone buy it then suffer afterwards in an economic depression. I sold it in 2006 and sure enough the economy began its collapse in 2008 here. I spoke to the gentleman who bought it last year and he thanked me for warning him before he bought it because it allowed him to get prepared and that is why he is still in business today.
I am seeing signs again. Just like this video says. The current "recovery" is a farce. It feels good and looks good, but is is just as false as the cheap loans that were doled out in the early 2000's.
There is no way to save it. I fully expect all of our businesses to suffer.
The banks are going to start restricting what you can take out in order to save their portfolio. But eventually, when the federal and local governments cannot pay their loans the banks will start closing their doors. All you have to do is take a look at Spain or Cyprus to see what is in store.
The banks are the reason for the internet. Without the political pull of the banks and other monetary trading institutions the internet as we know it is useless to the government.
Once the banks have collapsed there will be political excuse for keeping the internet unobstructed as it is now. The internet will cease to exist as we know it now. It will be restricted to the point where the general public will not be able to afford it.
We, personally have prepared for this in the following ways over the past three years:
1) Everything we do has a redundant paper backup.
2) Everything from scheduling to marketing can be done without the internet at all. We still use email for communications, but by keeping our own personal service base local we could hand deliver documents if we had to and still fulfill our contracts.
3) We have done everything we can to reduce our fuel use. We can switch to a light pickup truck and ladders at the drop of a hat if fuel cost or availability become an issue.
There are other things we have done businesswise regarding our relationships with our customers that I don't want to discuss here that would also keep us going during a full collapse.
Basically I took everything I learned from the 2008 collapse and shored up our business based on what I learned from that.
This is the value of not "forgetting" the past. Only a fool would fail to use the past in preparing for the future.
tcolborg
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Hey Tony I tried to send you a PM but your mailbox is full. Was told you are a great resource to talk to about BMPs and reclaim, and that you may have pretty good knowledge that can help me out in Colorado. I can send you an email with my questions if easier. Thanks for the help.
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Tony Shelton
BS Detector, Esquire
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get a permit!!!
Tristan you should ask in the UAMCC enviro group. This way what ever Tony says is there for others to Help
https://www.facebook.com/groups/219103914881595/
propressurewashing
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We've had the "tech bubble", the "housing bubble" and we now have what will either be called a "fed bubble" or a "government bubble". Right now the federal reserve gives almost free money to the government to finance hand-outs and to the banks to prop up the stock market - neither can go on forever. Eventually we as tax payers will have to pay back this debt to the federal reserve, including interest. Sooner than later the fed will have to raise rates, the banks will cash out and then engineer a stock market crash out and then beg for government hand outs and low interest rates from the fed in order to rebuild the economy - again.....
Buy silver..especially while it is still cheap!
Daniel Simmons
Pressure Washing America, LLC
http://www.pressurewashingkaty.com
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Buy silver..especially while it is still cheap!
Daniel Simmons
Pressure Washing America, LLC
http://www.pressurewashingkaty.com
http://www.pressurewashingcypress.com
Tony Shelton
BS Detector, Esquire
This has happened to societies over and over again throughout history. It illustrates the fallacy of "forgive and forget".
There is only one way to fix this. And it is going to hurt....really bad.
I was thinking about writing a book on this. I may start it here because I can jump from topic to topic without having to have the final structure laid out.
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There is only one way to fix this. And it is going to hurt....really bad.
I was thinking about writing a book on this. I may start it here because I can jump from topic to topic without having to have the final structure laid out.
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propressurewashing
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The problem is that what it would take to fix it would be so unpopular the the voters that no politician could ever get elected running on a "cut all entitlements, close all tax loopholes, and close all unnecessary government agencies (90%) starting with the EPA, IRS and the DEO" platform. Perry mentioned that Social Security needed to be reformed and it was a ponzi scheme (which it is) and was almost immediately out of the GOP running....meanwhile Texas is one of a few states that is prospering and had a tax surplus last year despite having no income tax!
The Left seem to think Socialism is the answer but the occupy "movement" did little more than prove that "redistribution" and "fair" to them means stealing each others Ipods, raping eachother, breaking other peoples windows and pooping on cop cars - sounds like a great way to improve society!
The Left seem to think Socialism is the answer but the occupy "movement" did little more than prove that "redistribution" and "fair" to them means stealing each others Ipods, raping eachother, breaking other peoples windows and pooping on cop cars - sounds like a great way to improve society!
tcolborg
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Ron that link didn't open any group on Facebook. Says the page is not valid.
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Daniel you say buy silver, what are your thoughts on the gonv making it illegal???
How high do you think it will go???
you like eagles ??
thanks
dave
Kory
Member
Dave silver is a good investment not great. Diversification is key! What are absolute necessities. Food, water, fire. Have a minimum 3 month supply of these. Other wise purchases are guns, ammo, lighters, booze, canned tabacco, daily use items such as tp, hygiene products and other items you can use to trade. I read many articles that said people could trade zippo lighter for gold in colapsed gov countries. We may never see a collapse of the system, but let me ask you this if you had the pre mentioned supplies and you had a bad accident and could not work could your family make it till you recovered? Or if you died could they make it till benefits kicked in?
propressurewashing
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I don't think the government will make it illegal for several reasons - it has many industrial uses which is a BIG part of why I like it over gold and why global supply has nowhere to go but down....unlike gold.
I can't guess how high it could go - it is manipulated over the short run by JPM and SLV among other forces so it is kinda hard to tell what it should be worth right now or what it could be worth of the manipulation ends but I could easily see $100 in the next 5 years as the Fed ends QE and we the possibility of inflation from the years of "cheap money".
I do like eagles, I have the entire set, but I really like whatever is the best deal at the time. Keep an eye on craigslist and you can run across folks who need cash more than the silver and you can find good deals but you have to act fast. I got almost the entire set of eagles a few years ago for under spot off craigslist!
I can't guess how high it could go - it is manipulated over the short run by JPM and SLV among other forces so it is kinda hard to tell what it should be worth right now or what it could be worth of the manipulation ends but I could easily see $100 in the next 5 years as the Fed ends QE and we the possibility of inflation from the years of "cheap money".
I do like eagles, I have the entire set, but I really like whatever is the best deal at the time. Keep an eye on craigslist and you can run across folks who need cash more than the silver and you can find good deals but you have to act fast. I got almost the entire set of eagles a few years ago for under spot off craigslist!