Thanks For Nothing Facilitec

aeneas01

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> as part of my restaurant's remodel, i decided to purchase a new exhaust fan as well as a grease containment system.

> before i installed these new units, i felt it important to have my hood and duct serviced so i made an appointment with my usual professional cleaners.

> decided on grease guard after researching many different systems on the net. placed a call to facilitec and was told that it could only be purchased through my local distributor - was told they would contact the distributor for me and give them my number.

> three days go by and no word from the distributor. i again call facilitec but this time i request the distributor's number. i am told giving out distributor's numbers is against policy. wt...

> several more days pass and distributor finally contacts me. she tells me that facilitec also offers an excellent hood/exhaust maintenance service at very competitive prices - it sounds so good that i decide to cancel the appointment with my usual cleaners and go with facilitec. we schedule an appointment that will take place in two weeks. she says a rep will be out to look at the job and a quote would follow.

> two days before the scheduled appointment, i have yet to hear from the distributor - no calls, no site inspection and no quote. i contact the distributor and it is clear that she only vaguely recalls me and our conversation. she says the soonest she can get someone out here would be in a week - unless there is a cancellation. she schedules an appointment for the following week. i'm not very happy.

> the following day the distributor calls and says there is a cancellation - the cleaners will be out that night at 9pm. 9pm comes and goes. so does midnight. no calls. nothing.

> i am waiting for her call the next day to explain what happened. she doesn't call. i contact her and she apologizes. she also informs me that the following week's appointment is no longer available since she cancelled it due to the fact that she didn't think i would need it since cleaners were supposed to do the job the previous night. the best she can do is an appointment in two weeks. i say thanks but no thanks.

> later that day i get a call from the local facilitec branch manager confirming an appointment in two weeks. i tell him that i was not interested, that i was stood up the previous night and that i was very disappointed. he said he would make things right and get someone out to me that night. he calls back and tells me a crew would be here at 9pm. 9pm comes and goes. so does midnight. no calls. nothing.

> i contact faciltec's night manager at the home office and he tells me that i show as scheduled. he said he would make some calls and find out what is going on. he gets back to me and says that, although he shows me as scheduled, my local branch does not have me listed.

> stood up two nights in a row.

> today i call facilitec and get a rep. i ask to speak with someone in charge - she tells me no one is available and asks if she can help. i tell her my story and she apologizes and promises to make it right. she tells me that she is going to make some phone calls and that facilitec would make sure that i am taken care of. she tells me she will get right back to me.

> it is now midnight and have yet to hear from facilitec.

> shame on you facilitec. and shame on me for dumping my previous service for your empty promises.


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i am posting my experience here and i will be posting it to every foodservice forum that i frequent. also, i will be contacting the folks (independent) that have done my hood system in the past, folks that have never left me hanging, and ask that they reschedule my appointment. i learned my lesson. they may charge more than facilitec, but they can be counted on.

robert
 
I get so much business that way.. I had one of my best customers tell me the other day that I sometimes show up to early .. I told him that rain, sleet or shine we are there 30 minutes early.. In 15 years looking back in most of my records which are now all computerizied I have cancelled 4 jobs ... but I always 2 days in advance..I document everything . Being that we are also a fire equipment company as well as a hood cleaning company and concrete cleaning company.. Let Me Explain what I think happens.... 1) Large corps subcontract inexperienced people and do not pay them much. 2) Subcontractors would rather complete there own work first then do the subcontracting work because they have to give part of there percent away..

We have a company called Grinnell here ( they are part of Simplex ) That is a part of Tyco..
Some of there previous customers tell me that they don't showup and some tell me they don't even know how to recharge fire equipment.. My customers say they are taken in by the big name (TYCO) .. But remember the big name is only as good as the little people that run it..
So maybe I am one of the little guys but my customers in Mississippi know I do what I say , And I am always there...

I hope you can get your local guy back.......

If not I am sure you will find some help on this board..

The Grease Guard System is nice but if you cant get it serviced ,its a mess..
 

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Hello Robert,

If the exhaust system is cleaned and maintained properly and in a timely fashion, the Greaseguard or any other type of roof containment (diaper) is not necessary.

My $.02,

Dave Olson
 
Robert - that is a sad story of very very poor customer service.

If you are in Southern California I would like to speak with you.
 
I've got to think that this is a disgruntled employee or a competitor trying to slam Facilitec. It just doesn't make sense to post it on a contractors board. I vote to move it or take it off, I would feel the same way if it was any of my competitors and would sure hate to have a customer come on here and slam my company for one mistake.
 
Yall might be right about the employee thing but what is so sad is that this kind of thing happens alot in Mississippi. Not only with Facilitec but other companies as well.. I get calls where potential customers actual ask me questions like ( will you actually show up to clean my hood when you say you will , because the other guy has cancelled on me 3 times in a row )

I also have potential customers call and ask me questions like (do yall clean the roof part of the exhaust system because my current company does not offer any thing but the hood and the filters they do not do the roof .. Is this Right ? )

I get more accounts just by doing the job right ..... and usually make more money too.

I have a list of sales calls that I recorded. They will be on our website one day..
Some of the most funny things you have ever heard
 
"I've got to think that this is a disgruntled employee or a competitor trying to slam Facilitec. It just doesn't make sense to post it on a contractors board. I vote to move it or take it off, I would feel the same way if it was any of my competitors and would sure hate to have a customer come on here and slam my company for one mistake."

i am a restaurant owner and have been in business at the same location for close to 10 years. i posted my experience to your board for the benefit of other restaurateurs who, like myself, will most certainly stumble across your forum should they ever have a need to do an internet search for grease containment systems or hood/exhaust maintenance. i also posted my experience to your board as a show of my newfound support for those of you here that own and operate your own independent maintenance businesses and whom may have lost business to larger operations. i returned to my independent cleaner and i'm sure that i will not be alone...

frankly, i sincerely doubt that my posts to this and other forums will harm facilitec's business and, simply put, that is not my intention. it is my hope that someone from facilitec will stumble across my posts and look into the matter - not for my sake in that i am now quite done with facilitec, but for the sake of their next customer who will most likely be a restaurant owner or manager that just finished a 12 hour day a doesn't need the added aggravation of waiting around for a cleaning crew that will never arrive.

i have tried to privately remedy this problem with facilitec but they simply do not return calls and/or are simply not interested. i also emailed facilitec the following message with a link to my posts:

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Just wanted you to know that I intend to share the horrible experience I have had with your company with every foodservice forum I frequent. I am not vindictive by nature nor am I one to shout from rooftops whenever I feel that I was treated unfairly, but the experience I had with your company was so exceptionally poor that I feel obligated to share it with others in my industry.

Robert


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should a rep from facilitec wish to contact me regarding this experience, you have my email address from the note i sent you. if you require further background information regarding the matter, just contact your san francisco branch manager or your northern california distributor.

to those members that posted their condolences to my post, many thanks. keep up your good work and you will never be in need for customers...

robert
 
Robert,

The CEO of Facilitec is Daryl Mirza and he usually checks into the www.PWNA.org board. You will have to post on the power washer section. One of the west coast VPs is the past president of the Power washers of north America. It sounds like they are having serious quality control issues. Good luck.

Is it safe to assume you are in San Francisco? There are SF hood cleaners on this board, like A-1 Air Vent. You might try him. Or Gary Crabtrey in SF.
 
Sorry this happened to you Robert. I can't say that it has never happened to one of my customers, and I am sure that everyone on this board has missed a few appointments.

I have emailed the contacts that I have at Facilitec and although the issue may never be resolved, at least you may get an explaination and possibly some kind of compensation for your time and frustration. Good luck in the future.
 
"The CEO of Facilitec is Daryl Mirza and he usually checks into the www.PWNA.org board. You will have to post on the power washer section. One of the west coast VPs is the past president of the Power washers of north America. It sounds like they are having serious quality control issues. Good luck. Is it safe to assume you are in San Francisco? There are SF hood cleaners on this board, like A-1 Air Vent. You might try him. Or Gary Crabtrey in SF."

it was to daryl (mirza) that i sent the above mentioned email - whether or not he (or anyone from facilitec, for that matter) chooses to get back to me is now of little consequence. as i mentioned previously, i just hope that my email to daryl, and/or my posts to various other food service forums, might motivate facilitec enough to ensure that their next customer does not have to waste the same amount of time as i did waiting for a cleaner that will never arrive.

and, yes, i am in the bay area. i am going to try to reschedule with my previous maintenace guys; if they are too swamped, i will give a-1 or gary call. thanks very much for the referral...

"Sorry this happened to you Robert. I can't say that it has never happened to one of my customers, and I am sure that everyone on this board has missed a few appointments. I have emailed the contacts that I have at Facilitec and although the issue may never be resolved, at least you may get an explaination and possibly some kind of compensation for your time and frustration. Good luck in the future."

thanks for your input, mbryan.

we are all human - try as we may to operate our businesses as efficiently as possible, we all drop the ball from time to time. unintentionally. myself included. and i understand this. but the problem with facilitec, in my case, was their utter lack of respect for my time. no phone call(s) to let me know that a crew would not be out (both nights), no call from the disributor to let me know what was going on and no return call from their home office despite assurances.

while i'm sure that you and other forum members may have "missed" appointments, i doubt that you have failed to honor two consecutive appointments with the the same client, two nights in a row. and without the benefit of a phone call....

again, i am not seeking any resolution, appeasment, etc. from facilitec - i am done with them. i just hope the next guy that deals with them is treated a bit more fairly...
 
Robert please send your email address to me

I saw this post on Friday and we have been checking into it ever since. I appreciate the concerns and I am looking forward to find out were the breakdown occurred. We strive not to get this kind of complaints and to do the best work in the industry.

I am not sure were you sent your email but please send your email address to me so I can respond to this issue.

I think your restaurant name is
Cafe Reyes
11101 State Route 1
Point Reyes Station, CA 94956

We schedule it on 4-14 and we ran out of time to do the work.
It looks like the job was scheduled again on 4-15 and there seemed to be a breakdown on getting it on a techs route but that is the notes that are in the system right now.

Also there is not an order for a GreaseGuard in the system so we may have a problem with that as well.

I also check and found that out of the last 334 jobs for that branch 10 were not done. I am very sorry that out of the 3% that did not get done one of them was you.

I apologize for any inconvenience that we may have caused and if given a chance I would like to make it right.

Daryl Mirza
President
Daryl.Mirza@facilitec-usa.com
Cell 847-309-9794
 
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Sometime a black cloud seems to float over a given customer, and whatever you do nothing works the way we would want. When dealing with employee issues and so on we all try to limit events that persist with accounts that seem to get off on the rocky side of the road.
 
Holy Crap... Boy if I made excuses like that I would Be broke.

If you want the job done right do it yourself..

One day I am Sure we might miss a custimer.. NOT

Any hoo If I get a complaint I handle it personally .. I once drove 180 miles at 11 pm to do a job in Tupelo Mississippi because JT was running out of time he called me and said I can't do my second job I am going to run out of time .. I called his second customer and told him the situation Got my ass in my truck and started the long journey to Tupelo.. I got there a little late but I called the customer 3 times to inform him where I was and that I was on My way .. I got there cleaned it and got paid.. AMEN.. The manager of the restaurant said " do you do this for all your customer's " I said yes sir . Now this is just a small mississippi company with only about 170 accounts but hey could i handle 170 more...YEP... Oh guys it's going big just installed 12 grease catcher systems this past week....

My wife asked me this morning when I was going to stop working so hard ? I said simply ( WHEN I DIE )


http://www.freewebs.com/greasecatcher/index.htm
 
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"I am not sure were you sent your email but please send your email address to me so I can respond to this issue."

i sent the email to you at: daryl.mirza@Facilitec-USA.com

"If the exhaust system is cleaned and maintained properly and in a timely fashion, the Greaseguard or any other type of roof containment (diaper) is not necessary. My $.02, Dave Olson"

i believe you are right dave and it certainly makes sense - i also think the type of exhaust fan employed makes a difference as well. i just finished installing a great new fan (sadly, over a dirty hood/duct) that came with a variable speed control. it also seems to be much more sealed than my previous fan.

i believe that my old fan was too powerful for my hood/duct system; despite being the fan type rated for my system, it seemed to suck up air at a rate that was much too excessive which caused the duct grease to coat the fan and seep onto the roof much quicker than might have been the case with less powerful fan. i have set my new fan to a lower speed - it is still at a speed plenty strong enough to pull fumes from my cooking equipment, yet it doesn't look like it pulls the grease from the duct as quickly as my old fan did.

"New Containment System By B&R .. "

john b: i went your site to take a look at your grease containment system. looks interesting. do you think you could post an actual photo of the system in use? it is hard to get a feel for it from the drawing. btw, i think it is a very smart move on your part to offer free maintenance of the system with your cleaning service...
 
I apologize for any incontinence that we may have caused and if given a chance I would like to make it right.

Daryl Mirza
President

Robert
Was that a Freudian slip? Or did you really having trouble holding your pee? Seems an odd thing to say to an unhappy customer.
 
Doc said:
I saw this post on Friday and we have been checking into it ever since. I appreciate the concerns and I am looking forward to find out were the breakdown occurred. We strive not to get this kind of complaints and to do the best work in the industry.

I am not sure were you sent your email but please send your email address to me so I can respond to this issue.

I think your restaurant name is
Cafe Reyes
11101 State Route 1
Point Reyes Station, CA 94956

We schedule it on 4-14 and we ran out of time to do the work.
It looks like the job was scheduled again on 4-15 and there seemed to be a breakdown on getting it on a techs route but that is the notes that are in the system right now.

Also there is not an order for a GreaseGuard in the system so we may have a problem with that as well.

I also check and found that out of the last 334 jobs for that branch 10 were not done. I am very sorry that out of the 3% that did not get done one of them was you.

I apologize for any incontinence that we may have caused and if given a chance I would like to make it right.

Daryl Mirza
President
Daryl.Mirza@facilitec-usa.com
Cell 847-309-9794


Incontinence??? :eek:
 
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