My UAMCC BOD elect Resignation

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Okay first of all I don't have any horses in this race. John, cut the drama, post or don't post. This is like one of those soap opera's my sister used to watch on TV. "As The World Turns" UAMCC according to John T... I know you have gripes about something and valid or not put them out there. I don't get the constant posturing, oh if they don't do this or do that. I'll give them just 49 more hours, then 48 hours.. Isn't there enough drama in this industry already?

John, I don't want you to think I'm bashing you personally, We've been freinds for years now and I understand your not happy.

I'm just so damn tired of all the drama. Doesn't anyone else get sick of the he said she said BS?? I dont agree with everything the uamcc's done but I don't agree with what you postyed on thier bbs either. Some things should be dealt with man to man or on the phone. Why do personal issues have to be solved on BBS's???????????
Now Rob has resigned, he said his peice and he didn't go on an on about it, he just did it and moved on. Life's too short man, go out and enjoy it.
 
Henry the drama isn't good for anyone,but if there are things going on that are either unlawful or unethical it doesn't just damage the ORG. it damages the industry as well.
I to would like to see it aired out now,but John for whatever reason must feel something might change and he will be able to move on without any further comment.
I have seen words like...threats and blackmail....thrown around.If you were being accused of such wouldn't you like your chance to say your piece?

2 BOD elects have stepped down in 2 days...there is something wrong in paradise.
 
I don't think the orgs been around long enough to gain enough credibility yet to hurt the industry. I think all the BS and BBS's are doing more to hurt the industries future.

Sure I've been accused of stuff and had idiots make BS comment about me and I stood up and fought back. I believe you and I have had our problems in the past. Who cares though??? I didn't posture and threaten to tell, I just put it out there and said screw it.. Why does there need to be a special report, news at nine, a special non alterable forum for just john to post in. Personally I think all the threats and stonewalling are making John look bad and it sure isn't going to "force" the UAMCC to do something.

If John truly thinks the org is doing something wrong, illegal or Immoral, why is he giving them time to do anything? Like we used to say in the Navy, if you have the shot TAKE IT. If not, blow it up instead.... Man, I miss working with explosives....

Other guys would say something like "Put up or shut up"
 
Quote from Carlos a little while ago

"The UAMCC is keenly aware of the threats being made to the UAMCC. We do take any and all threats seriously. Our Management Team has discussed and will continue to be in close contact with each other to offer swift but firm responses to any threats made to the UAMCC that warrant a formal response. The individual or individuals behind these threats have been contacted by the UAMCC in which we so advised them of our awareness to these baseless claims and threats being touted around over the last several days."


who are the management team (I mean do they have names?)
are they bod elects or are they transition team members ...both or a private/select group (this is a serious question)

this is the link to the whole post
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Sorry David to repost your post....but things tend to disappear over there.

I wish to thank the members on todays conference call for assisting me in keeping the topic/agenda intact concerning the Regions and the Oversight Committee. It was in this dialogue that a member suggested that the UAMCC address some of the recent events that have obviously taken place over the last several days not only here on our bbs but also on some of the others.

First, the UAMCC has accepted both the resignations of John Tornabene and Rob Huffman from the Board of Director Elects/Transition Team.

The UAMCC is keenly aware of the threats being made to the UAMCC. We do take any and all threats seriously. Our Management Team has discussed and will continue to be in close contact with each other to offer swift but firm responses to any threats made to the UAMCC that warrant a formal response. The individual or individuals behind these threats have been contacted by the UAMCC in which we so advised them of our awareness to these baseless claims and threats being touted around over the last several days.

There are several issues at hand but the management team, in my opinion, embarked on a very quick but fair approach to mitigate the present situation at this mornings conference call. I appreciate their candor and their simple approach to what appears to be an unfortunate use of many man hours.

We are looking forward to our opportunity to relieve ourselves of this situation and to let the facts support our position when the time is appropriate.

There has been no replacements for the two bod positions yet. We spoke on this subject this morning. I will be emailing the Nomination Committee members tomorrow (Tues) with a suggested action plan. Based on their feedback and the feedback from the Management Team we will proceed accordingly in replacing the two vacancies so that the BOD's can begin their role starting January 1st.

As circumstances present themselves we at the Management Team level (Transition Team members & BOD Elects) will convey as much information to the membership relating to "what is going on". As of right now and as explained on the conference call today, we will remain professional and will respond to any accusation that is supported with facts and not just hearsay.

This has been a very interesting set of events in such a short period of time. I would be misrepresenting myself if I tried to elude that everything is 'hunky dory' at UAMCC. It is not. I am troubled and deeply hurt with the source of this discourse and the unbridled way this individual attempts to cast such outlandish comments.

Though one could easily question our direction in lieu of the recent announcements. I say stand firm and allow the merits to guide your conscience. As members, we have all been through much since April 1st and I anticipate that we will be through much come next April and the April after that.

I am in a very awkward position today because many of you have followed and learned to trust the direction and instincts that the UAMCC has provided over the last 20 months relating to work and fulfillment of promises made be the TT and myself. I find myself revisiting on a regular basis what we have today and where we as an association were yesterday and the day before. I am ever so committed in ensuring that we remain grounded and keep that fundamental reason of 'how we got here' in front at all times. As a member your feedback, like today on the conference call, is ever so important now.

The TT will continue to take the UAMCC to January 1st and hand over a association to the BOD that is progressing and free of "hang ups". This is my promise to you as the Executive Director. I applaud the TT and the BOD elects for their swift and "hit the deck running" approach to today's circumstances.

Stay tuned for more information as things develop.
__________________
Carlos Gonzales
United Assoc. of Mobile Contract Cleaners ~ UAMCC
"Wash With Us"
5055 Business Center Drive
Suite 108 ~ #225
Fairfield, CA 94534
Pressure Washing
 
Squirtgun said:
Henry the drama isn't good for anyone,but if there are things going on that are either unlawful or unethical it doesn't just damage the ORG. it damages the industry as well.
I to would like to see it aired out now,but John for whatever reason must feel something might change and he will be able to move on without any further comment.
I have seen words like...threats and blackmail....thrown around.If you were being accused of such wouldn't you like your chance to say your piece?

2 BOD elects have stepped down in 2 days...there is something wrong in paradise.
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kyfireman2004 said:
Sorry David to repost your post....but things tend to disappear over there.

I wish to thank the members on todays conference call for assisting me in keeping the topic/agenda intact concerning the Regions and the Oversight Committee. It was in this dialogue that a member suggested that the UAMCC address some of the recent events that have obviously taken place over the last several days not only here on our bbs but also on some of the others.

First, the UAMCC has accepted both the resignations of John Tornabene and Rob Huffman from the Board of Director Elects/Transition Team.

The UAMCC is keenly aware of the threats being made to the UAMCC. We do take any and all threats seriously. Our Management Team has discussed and will continue to be in close contact with each other to offer swift but firm responses to any threats made to the UAMCC that warrant a formal response. The individual or individuals behind these threats have been contacted by the UAMCC in which we so advised them of our awareness to these baseless claims and threats being touted around over the last several days.

There are several issues at hand but the management team, in my opinion, embarked on a very quick but fair approach to mitigate the present situation at this mornings conference call. I appreciate their candor and their simple approach to what appears to be an unfortunate use of many man hours.

We are looking forward to our opportunity to relieve ourselves of this situation and to let the facts support our position when the time is appropriate.

There has been no replacements for the two bod positions yet. We spoke on this subject this morning. I will be emailing the Nomination Committee members tomorrow (Tues) with a suggested action plan. Based on their feedback and the feedback from the Management Team we will proceed accordingly in replacing the two vacancies so that the BOD's can begin their role starting January 1st.

As circumstances present themselves we at the Management Team level (Transition Team members & BOD Elects) will convey as much information to the membership relating to "what is going on". As of right now and as explained on the conference call today, we will remain professional and will respond to any accusation that is supported with facts and not just hearsay.

This has been a very interesting set of events in such a short period of time. I would be misrepresenting myself if I tried to elude that everything is 'hunky dory' at UAMCC. It is not. I am troubled and deeply hurt with the source of this discourse and the unbridled way this individual attempts to cast such outlandish comments.

Though one could easily question our direction in lieu of the recent announcements. I say stand firm and allow the merits to guide your conscience. As members, we have all been through much since April 1st and I anticipate that we will be through much come next April and the April after that.

I am in a very awkward position today because many of you have followed and learned to trust the direction and instincts that the UAMCC has provided over the last 20 months relating to work and fulfillment of promises made be the TT and myself. I find myself revisiting on a regular basis what we have today and where we as an association were yesterday and the day before. I am ever so committed in ensuring that we remain grounded and keep that fundamental reason of 'how we got here' in front at all times. As a member your feedback, like today on the conference call, is ever so important now.

The TT will continue to take the UAMCC to January 1st and hand over a association to the BOD that is progressing and free of "hang ups". This is my promise to you as the Executive Director. I applaud the TT and the BOD elects for their swift and "hit the deck running" approach to today's circumstances.

Stay tuned for more information as things develop.
__________________
Carlos Gonzales
United Assoc. of Mobile Contract Cleaners ~ UAMCC
"Wash With Us"
5055 Business Center Drive
Suite 108 ~ #225
Fairfield, CA 94534
Pressure Washing
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Carlos's guys can relate this message to him---------------
Carlos don't waste your breath. I am way ahead of you with "Roberts Rule of Order" and 501c6.. You know what you have to do and if its not done then I'll start spilling the truths right here. Forget everything else for a second. You know that I know the whole story so don't waste there time and mine especially with those certified phony documents you are sending me.

The truth hurts especially when your on the wrong side of it.
I still have not decided how far I am going to go with this besides exposing Jeff Lacour for the Violations he has committed and was allowed to get away with it at the expense of another person. This will never sit well with me.

I have many emails,PM's Texts and some phone calls from our fellow UAMCC members or in my case my ex fellow members since I terminated my membership. I am far from stupid and I am listening to what they are all asking of me...so don't be so narrow minded and try to box me in with Garbage. It never works. You want to cover for Jeff and give him a free ride at the expense of others...not going to happen.

I am not stupid and I am not in this to hurt the ones who care. So use your head and do what you and I know is the right thing to do. Like I said I don't know yet how far I am going to go with this but I am going to talk about Jeff Lacour at great length.

Also for any others...this past week I have called Carlos, Text him a few times and sent him numerous emails.....no response. I was shut out. In turn I watch my end happen within the UAMCC and also Rob's and I am holding Jeff and Carlos responsible for that but Jeff is my Target and I will explain to all this week.

Be advise when someone is scared they tend to threaten you with lines like I'm going to call your Police Dep't, I am going to call your Supervisor, I am going to contact my attorney etc etc etc...this is what Jeff has told me over and over again.

I don't play into scare tactics and I know Jeff is scared or he wouldn't give me those line of bullshit. He can call my job talk to my boss and also have his attorney send me whatever.

The bottom line is I have the facts and the truths. I don't know how hard I'm going to hit the UAMCC for this or if I even hit them at all. But for Jeff all I asked was that he step down and take a year sabbitical from any position within the UAMCC.

Carlos wants to cover for him and look the other way...well thats most likely the story I'm going to tell and also I am going to weave the whole thing together. It won't be bad but it will show that Jeff needs to step down yesterday.

Now if Carlos is going to push me like the way Jeff is driving me then I'll have to think harder on what else I want to do but remember I am keeping in mind the ones who do care about that org and who need it to succeed for there hard earned dollars. These guys I dont want to see hurt and this is your basic members there....but I do not want them ever to be in a position that me and Rob were in and a guy like Jeff comes along and just kills it.

Stay Tuned.
 
You can't say you weren't warned. Funny thing, I just found out today that different people were given different reasons why I told Carlos and the transition team why I did not want to be associated with them. Be prepared for a full frontal character assassination through a whisper campaign. I got you back.
For what it is worth, Rob and John are tremendous losses to any organization.
 
Just something I came across for the guys that was wondering what a 501c3 is......its a guide, on how to form a non profit. Steps, Tips and Warnings One more Day....



How to Start a 501c3 Nonprofit Organization

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Have you always wanted to leave the world a better place than you found it by starting a nonprofit corporation? Here's a simple, straightforward guide on how to successfully establish a 501(c)(3) nonprofit corporation.
an organization whose primary objective is to support some issue or matter of private interest or public concern (such as the arts, charities, education, politics, religion, research, or some other endeavor) for non-commercial purposes. There are different kinds of nonprofits, one of them being a 501(c)(3), which is exempt from income and (sometimes) property tax, and able to receive tax-deductible charitable contributions. Before you spend your money, at least consult with an attorney who is experienced in the area of nonprofit law so that you do not make one of the many major mistakes that people make when they try to incorporate by themselves.

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  1. Formulate a mission statement. As a non-profit organization, you exist to accomplish your mission, which should be crafted based upon your purpose, services and values. The mission statement is a concise expression that covers in one or two sentences who the organization is, what it does, for whom and where. It should also be compelling, as it will be used in all published materials, funding requests and public relations. It should also portray how your organization is distinct from others. (See Tips for a sample mission statement.)
  2. Form a Board of Directors. Forming a board requires careful thought and extensive recruitment efforts. Each state has regulations that determine the minimum size of the board, typically three, but the optimum number of people who sit on the board should be determined by the needs of the organization. Based on what your organization would like to accomplish, you should decide what special skills and qualities you will require of the individuals on your board. Identify qualified individuals who are supportive of your mission and are willing to give of their talents and time (see Tips for more information).
  3. File Articles of Incorporation. Articles of Incorporation are official statements of creation of an organization filed with the appropriate state agency. They are important to protect both board and staff from legal liabilities incurred by the organization, making the corporation the holder of debts and liabilities, not the individuals and officers who work for the organization. The specific requirements governing how to incorporate are determined by each state. You can obtain the information you need to proceed with this step from your state Attorney General’s office or your state Secretary’s office. Before you spend your money, at least consult with an attorney who is experienced in the area of nonprofit law so that you do not make one of the many major mistakes that people make when they try to incorporate by themselves.
  4. Draft bylaws. Bylaws are simply the "rules" of how the organization operates. Although Bylaws are not required to file for 501(c)(3) status, they will help you in governing your organization. Bylaws should be drafted with the help of an attorney and approved by the board early in the organization's development.
  5. Develop a budget. Creating a budget is often one of the most challenging tasks when creating a nonprofit organization. A budget is the expression, in financial terms, of the plan of operation designed to achieve the objectives of an organization. New organizations may start the budgeting process by looking at potential income – figuring out how much money they have to spend.
  6. Develop a record-keeping system. Legally, you must save all Board documents including minutes and financial statements. It is necessary to preserve your important corporate documents, including board meeting minutes, bylaws, Articles of Incorporation, financial reports, and other official records. You should contact your appropriate state agency for more information on what records you are required to keep in the official files.
  7. Develop an accounting system. If your board does not include someone with a financial or accounting background, it is best to work with an accountant familiar with non-profit organizations. Nonprofits are accountable to the public, their funders, and, in some instances, government granting bodies, and it is vital to establish a system of controls (checks and balances) when establishing the organization’s accounting practices. Responsible financial management requires the establishment of an accounting system that meets both current and anticipated needs.
  8. File for 501(c)(3) status. To apply for recognition of tax-exempt, public charity status, obtain Form 1023 (application) and Publication 557 (detailed instructions) from the local IRS office. The filing fee depends upon the size of the organization’s budget. The application is an important legal document, so it is advisable to seek the assistance of an experienced attorney when preparing it. Both of these documents can be downloaded from IRS web site listed below.
  9. Apply for a federal employer identification number. Regardless of whether or not you have employees, nonprofits are required to obtain a federal Employer Identification Number (EIN) — also referred to as the federal ID number. Available from the IRS, this number is used to identify the organization when tax documents are filed and is used not unlike an individual’s Social Security number. If you received your number prior to incorporation, you will need to apply for a new number under the corporate name. Ask for Form SS-4 when applying for your EIN.
  10. File for state and local tax exemption. In accordance with state, county, and municipal law, you may apply for exemption from income, sales, and property taxes. Contact your state Department of Revenue, your county or municipal Department of Revenue, local Departments of Revenue, and county or municipal clerk’s offices.
  11. Fulfill charitable solicitation law requirements. If your organization’s plans include fundraising, be aware that many states and few local jurisdictions regulate organizations that solicit funds within that state, county, or city. Usually compliance involves obtaining a permit or license and then filing an annual report and financial statement. Contact the state Attorney General’s office, the state Department of Commerce, state and local Departments of Revenue and county or municipal clerk’s offices to get more information.
  12. Apply for a nonprofit mailing permit. The federal government provides further subsidies for nonprofits with reduced postage rates on bulk mailings. While first-class postage rates for nonprofits remain the same as those for the for-profit sector, second- and third-class rates are substantially less when nonprofits mail to a large number of members or constituencies. For more information on eligibility, contact the U.S. Postal Service and ask for Publication 417, Nonprofit Standard Mail Eligibility (also available at the link below)




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  • Sample mission statement: "The National Mental Health Association is dedicated to promoting mental health, preventing mental disorders and achieving victory over mental illnesses through advocacy, education, research and service; The National Consumer Supporter Technical Assistance Center’s purpose is to strengthen consumer organizations by providing technical assistance in the forms of research, informational materials, and financial aid. The mission of Texas Mental Health Consumers is to organize, encourage, and educate mental health consumers in Texas. TMHC supports and promotes the mental health recovery process through peer directed and operated services, advocacy, economic development, and participation in public mental health policy design."
  • What to look for in a board member: Look for individuals whose values reflect your statement of purpose. Although it is recommended that the majority of your board be consumers, include the community at large, not just your specific community of focus (e.g. the mental health community). Consider the religious community, local service clubs, legal professionals, and colleges and universities as sources for prospective a Board of Directors. Do not overload people who already serve on many committees – seek a balance between old and new leadership.
  • The organization needs to open a bank account and ascertain whether to use the accrual or cash method of accounting. The difference between the two types of accounting is when revenues and expenses are recorded. In cash basis accounting, revenues are recorded when cash is actually received and expenses are recorded when they are actually paid (no matter when they were actually invoiced). In accrual basis accounting, income is reported in the fiscal period it is earned, regardless of when it is received, and expenses are deducted in the fiscal period they are incurred, whether they are paid or not.
  • Hire an attorney to help you with your Certificate of Incorporation and the By-Laws. Hire an attorney or accountant, particularly one who has experience with 501c3 nonprofit corporations, to help you file the state and federal exemption forms. It will save you time and money in the long run.
  • You may want to secure a domain name that matches the name of your proposed organization.
  • Design a logo and tagline that will help distinguish your organizations from others and be representative of what your mission is.





[edit] Warnings

  • Do not use an Incorporation service or Paralegal document processing service to start your nonprofit. They often only provide part of your documentation needed for full Tax Exempt Corporation status. You could also consult a nonprofit law attorney, an experienced accountant or a professional 501(c)(3) consulting service, but be sure to check them out. Most paralegals, attorneys and accountants have little experience in this area. You can usually check out these services via the local legal bar association, references, or the Better Business Bureau.
  • It is important to file your 1023 within 27 months of the date when your organization was established, or when your Articles of Incorporation were filed. Although the IRS may approve an additional extension under certain circumstances, missing the deadline may result in your charity or foundation not getting 501(c)(3) recognition retroactive to its incorporation date.
 
They are a 501c6 which is a different type of non profit.
For what it is worth, they have applied, but have not activated that form of incorporation. Legally it is a private corporation, and I think Carlos owns all the shares. So, your membership, and donations, are going directly to a privately held corporation, and very one on the Transition team has been working for a private corporation, for free.
 
Scott Stone said:
They are a 501c6 which is a different type of non profit.
For what it is worth, they have applied, but have not activated that form of incorporation. Legally it is a private corporation, and I think Carlos owns all the shares. So, your membership, and donations, are going directly to a privately held corporation, and very one on the Transition team has been working for a private corporation, for free.
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I just mentioned this to someone last night.Glad I'm not the only one that sees it for what it is.
 
Ron Musgraves said:
So in that case its really none of our business.
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Hahahahahahahahaha

This was discussed earlier this year along with a lot of other things which I won't bring up here.
 
offdutyfireman said:
As with any thing else, you you don't have the time, don't commit. The union has been up and running for almost 2 years. Surely someone would have found time to make it legit. Let's hope more people see thru it for what it is.
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I think you misunderstood my post, I was eluding to all the time put into some of these posts! haha
 
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