My final conclusion on the UAMCC-pressure washing

William I view these type of people as nothing more than cowards.

If so much as 1 hair is harmed on me/my families heads or if they set foot on my property the consequences will be very unpleasant for the offender.If I lose so much as 1 of my accounts I will hunt them and return the favor 100 fold.
 
Scott and William.. why would you guys tolerate that? I would bring that to the doorstep of the UAMCC and demand they get to the bottom of it... everything is traceable. What you are talking about Scott is a federal offense.

And uh.. let me throw this out there as food for thought.. its not beneath some people to use those techniques to bait you guys or give you reason to hate the org. I know just about every guy in this organization. These are family men and established business owners. Its HIGHLY unlikely it came from a UAMCC member.

I have a ton of resources and some connections that I can help either of you get to the bottom of it. I would really like to because I have a very strong suspicion both of you would be blown away by where they actually came from.

Scott, let's get the FBI involved. Its warranted. Maybe someone will start sweating.
 
pressurepros said:
Scott and William.. why would you guys tolerate that? I would bring that to the doorstep of the UAMCC and demand they get to the bottom of it... everything is traceable. What you are talking about Scott is a federal offense.

And uh.. let me throw this out there as food for thought.. its not beneath some people to use those techniques to bait you guys or give you reason to hate the org. I know just about every guy in this organization. These are family men and established business owners. Its HIGHLY unlikely it came from a UAMCC member.

I have a ton of resources and some connections that I can help either of you get to the bottom of it. I would really like to because I have a very strong suspicion both of you would be blown away by where they actually came from.

Scott, let's get the FBI involved. Its warranted. Maybe someone will start sweating.
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Ken I have had the talk with all the appropriate people and things are being watched very carefully.I am not and did not point the finger at the TT or the Org and have been assured by the few that knew about this no one would be involved in such behavior.
IMO,this is not an Org thing,but some individual who is letting their passion cloud their judgement.That judgement was smart enough to use emails that couldn't be traced nor would accept replies.Let's hope their judgement also keeps them very clear from my home and family.My dogs bite as do I and my aim is spot on.....

and we all know I can swing a baseball bat for close combat.
 
pressurepros said:
Scott and William.. why would you guys tolerate that? I would bring that to the doorstep of the UAMCC and demand they get to the bottom of it... everything is traceable. What you are talking about Scott is a federal offense.

And uh.. let me throw this out there as food for thought.. its not beneath some people to use those techniques to bait you guys or give you reason to hate the org. I know just about every guy in this organization. These are family men and established business owners. Its HIGHLY unlikely it came from a UAMCC member.

I have a ton of resources and some connections that I can help either of you get to the bottom of it. I would really like to because I have a very strong suspicion both of you would be blown away by where they actually came from.

Scott, let's get the FBI involved. Its warranted. Maybe someone will start sweating.
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Ken, I am not tolerating it. I am trying my best to halt the union in it's tracks. It may very well have come from someone outside of the union. The fact that it has been 3 different voices leads me to believe it was not. You know I don't spend much time on the phone, so when they start in I just hang up. Maybe they are as passionate in what they believe in as I am.
 
pressurepros said:
Scott and William.. why would you guys tolerate that? I would bring that to the doorstep of the UAMCC and demand they get to the bottom of it... everything is traceable. What you are talking about Scott is a federal offense.

And uh.. let me throw this out there as food for thought.. its not beneath some people to use those techniques to bait you guys or give you reason to hate the org. I know just about every guy in this organization. These are family men and established business owners. Its HIGHLY unlikely it came from a UAMCC member.

I have a ton of resources and some connections that I can help either of you get to the bottom of it. I would really like to because I have a very strong suspicion both of you would be blown away by where they actually came from.

Scott, let's get the FBI involved. Its warranted. Maybe someone will start sweating.
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Wow, that narrows it down to everyone in the world who is not a UAMCC member. Great detective work and nice deflection. :smile2:

Come on over to the dark side Ken. We need a guy with connections like you've got. :happydance::happydance:
 
I guess the only consolation is that those types of threats are idle. Someone meaning a person real harm never lets them know its coming. They will get exposed and if its an overzealous UAMCC member, they will get tossed. Spirited discussions on a forum are one thing, getting involved with or hurting someone's business or personal life is scum of the earth.
 
Tony Shelton said:
Wow, that narrows it down to everyone in the world who is not a UAMCC member. Great detective work and nice deflection. :smile2:

Come on over to the dark side Ken. We need a guy with connections like you've got. :happydance::happydance:
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I've been on computers and the internet for 17 years. You learn a few things along the way that may not qualify as mainstream. Tony, didn't you used to have a voice impersonation act at the Bellagio a few years back? :ignore:

I'm already on the dark side. I'm a pressure washer.
 
pressurepros said:
I guess the only consolation is that those types of threats are idle. Someone meaning a person real harm never lets them know its coming. They will get exposed and if its an overzealous UAMCC member, they will get tossed. Spirited discussions on a forum are one thing, getting involved with or hurting someone's business or personal life is scum of the earth.
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I apologize in advance but I just cant help but ask, will they get their money back if they are tossed? :shrug:
 
pressurepros said:
I guess the only consolation is that those types of threats are idle. Someone meaning a person real harm never lets them know its coming. They will get exposed and if its an overzealous UAMCC member, they will get tossed. Spirited discussions on a forum are one thing, getting involved with or hurting someone's business or personal life is scum of the earth.
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Right just like posting someones mug shot.. are you saying that person was scum ........ Kenny? Or better yet quoting you "the scum of the earth"
 
So did anyone come out and publicly denonce that umacc member (person) that did and call him scum? (I must have missed it) this all goes back to nobody you know would do Anything to hurt someone personally or hurt their business
 
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Where Oh Where would we be without all the Drama? :nhl_checking: :girl_wacko:
 
Russ Spence said:
I apologize in advance but I just cant help but ask, will they get their money back if they are tossed? :shrug:
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No they won't, after that was offered to you by Carlos within a short time we told Carlos that is not the policy going forward
 
Personally, I have no interest in having a show down, or even being in the same room as anyone from the UAMCC> I am afraid of the consequences if I was to lose my temper, because I HATE LIARS. I also Hate people that have repeatedly lied and disparaged my reputation after trying to use my name for their benefit.

On top of all that, it would really be fruitless, and drive an even larger wedge into the industry.
 
David Potter said:
So did anyone come out and publicly denonce that umacc member (person) that did and call him scum? (I must have missed it) this all goes back to nobody you know would do Anything to hurt someone personally or hurt their business
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Why would I or anyone else get involved in other people's personal business? Are you a liberal, David? You think governments and organization should be able to tell people how to run their lives? I never saw the post you are talking about. Other people's lives and squabbles do not interest me. In the thread where you got a little tore up on PT state about your other business.. you know which one I mean.. did you see me get involved in your personal business? Its mean spirited and its not me. You may think I am mean or that I do not like you because I called you out on a hack mentality you were perpetuating. You couldn't suck it up and chose to hang onto it. I apologized several times in a thread, in IM, and on email. You couldn't move on, thats on you.
 
My apologies to umacc . I have let my dislike for mr fenner be construed as a attack On umacc. It couldn't be farther from the truth. I've always said if different people we running I would love to join......

And my apologies especially to jeff who I think is a wonderfull decent passionate guy
Who's only crime in life is his passion for what he see's is umacc future and hell and high water isn't going to let anyone or anything get in his way.
I would join tomorrow and stand next to a guy like that
 
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