Financial Crisis!!!

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So the senate denied the $700 billion dollar bail out. I wonder what is going to happen now! We are in a recession they government just doesn't want to tell us!!!!

I can tell bc everyone I contact about doing some work or trying to get residential work is impossible here in North East Georgia!! Everyone says that they don't have the money or there going to start doing it themselves. It seems the first thing that gets cut in a household budget is the cleaning budget.
I have tried getting commercial work but they want everything done so cheap that you cant hardly afford to do it with gas!!! Every other day were running out of gas here so no one is really spending money!!
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There goes Pressure Washing right now!!! Is anyone effected by this?? :(
 
Man, the dow is down 700+ points wait until the Asian markets open tomorrow. What some people don't realize this could just be the tip of a huge snowball effect. The could lead to a total DEPRESSION. The last depression lasted what 15 years. Will it get that bad, probably not, but I'm not looking forward to this lasting another 1,2, 3 years or more businesses closing and people just stop spending. I find it almost scary, why because we let all these scum bags use us and CEO making 100's of millions. They all should be going to jail, even some of our elected officials should be gone
 
Amen Brother !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Thats why the Right to Bear Arms was put into our constitution....They knew that we would have to overthrow the Government..
 
The government was one of the main culprits in getting us into this mess I sure don't trust them to get us out of it. Everytime the politicians open their mouths it just makes me mad. Maybe more people will start paying attention to how their country is run.
 
I recieved this in my email.....


$700 Billion. Greg Saw It Coming
And Tried To Warn Us Three Years Ago

I met Greg Farrell in 1999 while on a book tour promoting Secret Formulas of the Wizard of Ads. We shared a bottle of red wine at the Waldorf-Astoria’s Bull and Bear pub. Greg and I hit it off and we stayed in touch.

I remember making the phone call in 2002. “Greg, I’ve been thinking about what you told me and I want you to write a book called America Robbed Blind. Will you do it?” Greg wasn’t sure he had the time, so I emailed him my cover design: the Statue of Liberty wearing a blindfold, holding a bag full of cash.

The image was a double-prediction:
1. The American people, blindfolded, left holding the bag after a robbery.
2. The American people, blindfolded, about to be robbed of all they had.

Greg laughed when he saw the cover and said he would write the book. That was 2002. Wizard Academy Press published America Robbed Blind in January, 2005.

Back in those days Greg was an investigative reporter for USA Today. His job was to monitor the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) and investigate Wall Street crime.

Greg was America’s only reporter in the courtroom for every minute of the trials of Enron, Worldcom, Tyco and Martha Stewart. As an investigative reporter Greg dug deep, full time, year after year. “Roy, the SEC is being set up to take the fall for a series of financial disasters,” he said. “This whole Enron thing is just the tip of the iceberg.”

“What do you mean?”

“The number of publicly traded companies has grown exponentially in recent years, yet the budget for the SEC had been increased by only a small amount. Think of it this way,” Greg said, "Andy and Barney did a pretty good job patrolling Mayberry, but now they’re being told they have to patrol Los Angeles without any additional help, and without any bullets for their guns.”

Greg went on to explain how Congress keeps the SEC under-funded so that big business can grow unimpeded, unsupervised, and unregulated. If Congress allowed the SEC to do its job, big business would cry, “The government has us handcuffed! We can’t compete with all these government regulations.”

Big companies donate big dollars to congressional candidates. Are you beginning to get the picture?

Page 68 of Greg’s book details the proposal made during the summer of 2000 by Arthur Levitt, chairman of the SEC at the time.

Levitt was absolutely convinced that a financial catastrophe was coming and begged Congress to give him the power to stop it.

“But several big firms whose campaign contributions to lawmakers on Capitol Hill gave them enormous clout, fought the proposal aggressively… Levitt went to extraordinary lengths to show Congress the dangers that lay ahead… But Levitt’s warnings fell on deaf ears. So he took the battle to the states… It was only in November of 2000, when he learned that Congress was threatening to cut the SEC’s budget if the new rule went into effect, that Levitt relented.” - Page 69, America Robbed Blind, (2005)

In essence, Congress told Andy to quit complaining or they would take away his budget to pay Barney.

When the whole Enron thing was over, I asked Greg if he thought anything like that could ever happen again. “You can count on it,” he said, “It’s inevitable. As long as Congress keeps the watchdog starved, muzzled and on a chain, the abuses will multiply. Arthur Levitt begged Congress to empower the SEC and they spanked him for it.”

Enron and his cousins robbed American investors of more than 500 billion dollars. Then on September 18, 2008, after it was learned that Americans would again be left holding the bag for a 700 billion-dollar bank heist, John McCain, a lawmaker on Capitol Hill for the past 26 years, said, “The chairman of the SEC serves at the appointment of the president and in my view, has betrayed the public’s trust. If I were president today, I would fire him.’’

Wow. They’re trying to hang this debacle around the neck of the SEC and use them as the scapegoat, just as Greg said they would. (Hey, if Obama had said it, I’d be equally appalled, so don’t make the mistake of thinking I have a political bias. I don’t.)

Perhaps the greatest tragedy of all is that Greg described exactly how to fix the problem in his book (pages 180-181,) but no one paid attention:

1. Allow the SEC to keep the fees
it currently collects from public companies. Self-funding would protect the financial health of the commission from the whims of its Congressional overlords, and allow the SEC to grow at the same rate as the financial markets it polices.

2. Give SEC attorneys criminal enforcement powers.

3. Give bonuses to successful SEC attorneys.
Plaintiff’s lawyers who bring cases against tobacco companies and asbestos manufacturers put years of effort into the cause because if they win, the financial payoff is astronomical. But an SEC lawyer has almost no incentive to take on difficult cases where the commission is outgunned by a public company’s army of lawyers.


Greg Farrell is a past winner of the Jesse Neal Award for investigative reporting, a recipient of the Knight-Bagehot Fellowship for business journalism, a graduate of Harvard University (with an MBA from Columbia) and a cognoscenti graduate of Wizard Academy, where he also serves on the adjunct faculty. He was recently lured away from USA Today by the Financial Times.

You want to know what’s really happening in financial America? Pay attention to Greg Farrell. So far, he’s batting a thousand.
 
Man, the dow is down 700+ points wait until the Asian markets open tomorrow. What some people don't realize this could just be the tip of a huge snowball effect. The could lead to a total DEPRESSION. The last depression lasted what 15 years. Will it get that bad, probably not, but I'm not looking forward to this lasting another 1,2, 3 years or more businesses closing and people just stop spending. I find it almost scary, why because we let all these scum bags use us and CEO making 100's of millions. They all should be going to jail, even some of our elected officials should be gone

UI knew one day you would say something that I agreed with. I believe that it is more than just "some" of our elected officials should be thrown in jail.
 
So, now, what are we going to do about it?
BTW, the depression started in October 1929 on Black monday. Though times were extremely hard for a while, in reality, America was well on the way to recovery by the start of the second world war in 1939. Of course, America was not really involved in the war until 1942, though war was declared in 1941, similar to the Iraq debacle. And you cannot possibly hang the whole Iraq debacle on Bush. The democrats voted to approve the war, too. I won't bother posting a link. You can search congressional approval of the Iraq war. It is revisionist history to say Bush went in without congressional approval.
 
So, now, what are we going to do about it?
BTW, the depression started in October 1929 on Black monday. Though times were extremely hard for a while, in reality, America was well on the way to recovery by the start of the second world war in 1939. Of course, America was not really involved in the war until 1942, though war was declared in 1941, similar to the Iraq debacle. And you cannot possibly hang the whole Iraq debacle on Bush. The democrats voted to approve the war, too. I won't bother posting a link. You can search congressional approval of the Iraq war. It is revisionist history to say Bush went in without congressional approval.


I just finished burying $30 in the backyard.I'll be able to sell it on ebay for millions when the US dollar becomes obsolete:D

It looks bad now,but I don't think it's as bad as the talking heads want us to believe.The $700 million was a grossly over inflated number to add huge capital as a buffer instead them coming back later and ask for more if things didn't improve.
We the tax payers are going to get the smelly end of the stick no matter what happens.
 
Additionally, part of the reason that it was not approved, (besides Pelosi's partisan rant just before the vote) was because some of the wanted protections were not there. It is close, and I would be willing to bet that it will be really close this evening. Unfortunately, the Jewish Holiday is going to take precedence over solving this financial crisis, so Congress is going to shut down until Thursday. That is REALLY, REALLY stupid, in my opinion because of the gravity of the situation. And I am one who regards anyoens holy days as sacred. INterestingly, nearly EVERY jewish member of Congress is a Democrat. http://www.jewishexponent.com/article/11295/ I kind of wonder how many are truly practicing, and if the democrats would be insistent on taking the days off if they were mostly republican.
 
I just finished burying $30 in the backyard.I'll be able to sell it on ebay for millions when the US dollar becomes obsolete:D

It looks bad now,but I don't think it's as bad as the talking heads want us to believe.The $700 million was a grossly over inflated number to add huge capital as a buffer instead them coming back later and ask for more if things didn't improve.
We the tax payers are going to get the smelly end of the stick no matter what happens.

I was just listening to a local host that had Rep. Ted poe on, and he said that the 700 million was grossly underfunded, and thatmore would have been needed if this would have passed. The next bill will be over a trillion dollars, but it will have more "insurances" that republicrats want and that will be the reason it is passed. Such a load of crap these people are spewing.
 
Additionally, part of the reason that it was not approved, (besides Pelosi's partisan rant just before the vote) was because some of the wanted protections were not there. It is close, and I would be willing to bet that it will be really close this evening. Unfortunately, the Jewish Holiday is going to take precedence over solving this financial crisis, so Congress is going to shut down until Thursday. That is REALLY, REALLY stupid, in my opinion because of the gravity of the situation. And I am one who regards anyoens holy days as sacred. INterestingly, nearly EVERY jewish member of Congress is a Democrat. http://www.jewishexponent.com/article/11295/ I kind of wonder how many are truly practicing, and if the democrats would be insistent on taking the days off if they were mostly republican.

now thats a real can of worms ! Dont get me started ! conspiracy conspiracy !!!!!
 
Man, the dow is down 700+ points wait until the Asian markets open tomorrow. What some people don't realize this could just be the tip of a huge snowball effect. The could lead to a total DEPRESSION. The last depression lasted what 15 years. Will it get that bad, probably not, but I'm not looking forward to this lasting another 1,2, 3 years or more businesses closing and people just stop spending. I find it almost scary, why because we let all these scum bags use us and CEO making 100's of millions. They all should be going to jail, even some of our elected officials should be gone

Jeff i have to disagree with you buddy . . . the GDP grew 2.5% last quarter and the great depresion was brought on by panic selling . . .this is imposible now because of funtions put in that will shut the market down for the day if to many stocks start to sell.

Is the economy bad? Yes . . it's like a baby

. . . a baby that looks okay, maybe a lil under weight (growth at 2.5 instead of 3) and it has a lil cold (election year) that the doctor says it will just have to work out of its system but then there is a rash on the side of it (the messed up stock market) so what is gonna have to happen is the doctor (the folks on capital hill) is gonna have to run some test and figure out whats wrong and hopefully they can fix our baby (the economy)

Keep the faith guys
 
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