Electric clutch

I have never used one, but it seems like a good idea. You'd have to use an unloader with a pressure switch built in, so the clutch kicks out on unload and re-engages when the trigger is depressed.
 
Hey if you did that and had a 120volt burner , generator assembly .. You coul use your generator without having to run the pump.... Nice... Then you would have a 2000 or so watt generator.. as well as a pressure washer.. Seperate or together... We thought about a belt tensioner clutch for the pump so we could use the generator seprate if we needed it on our whitco machines..
 
That clutch would be fine. Truck mounted carpet cleaners use them a lot, especially if they're used for flood restoration. They're switch operated from the control panel.

Only thing is, they draw almost 4 amps. If you're running a 12 volt burner, it's an increased load on the engine's charging system. If you run 2 (like I think you have in mind), it may overload the charging capabilities of the engine with the burner on.
 
Thank You Russ for the info.

The dual triplex design I have in mine only uses one clutch on one pump the other pump runs when the motor is running.
Electrically would I be fine with the Kohler 25amp charging system and a DUAL 12V burner system and one clutch power draw?

I heard that a special spec Briggs engine has a 30 amp alternator.... true?
To bad their max gas engine is 35HP
 
I am looking to run two pumps off of one large diesel motor (35+hp). We sometimes need a generator (1 motor) a rinse pump (2nd motor) and a pressure washer ( 3rd motor). That is too many motors to keep up with. With a good size diesel motor we could run two pumps on clutches and a inverter off the alternator (30-40amp) for our 110v needs. My main worry is the clutches, the pumps require pretty good tourqe. I can run the fuel from the trucks tank or add a 50gal tank for off road diesel. I would also use a very good muffler and cover the motor to keep noise down. I have been trying to figure out a more efficient set-up for the rear of my rig. One other concern is the damn hurricanes won't leave us alone and I would like to have a 10k gen head to switch with one of the pumps when needed. What do you think?

http://www.isuzuengines.com/products/product_I.asp?series_id=1&model_id=36

Wouldn't be a real diesel with out a turbo on it.
 
Tim have you thought about hydraulics off a big motor to run all the pumps. i thought about doing that a while back. I think some of the izusus are set up with pto for hydraulics. i have seen some lawn spray trucks with hydraulics running some big bean pumps. Black knight makes some sweeper trucks that run hydraulics off the main motor to the sweeper. the electric clutches just dont look tuff enough to me.
 
Tim I mentioned you have an already awesome setup. It is my opinion that a large diesel engine (enclosed to reduce the noise) utilizing hydraulics is the best direction; you would be able to run numerous pumps and generator.

Have you looked into automating the chemical mixing? Curious
 
810f250 said:
Tim,

Very nice set up. You mentioned, that you are always seeking to improve your rig. From the looks of it there is not much more you can do, except to maybe automate it. Have you considered that?
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taselton2 said:
Sounds like a good idea.
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I guess you have not. I maybe a lagre capital expense, but it would be the ultimate. Microprocessor controls with in line chemical injection and engine control, hit one remote preprogramed button and apple sauce delivered to the end of your hose.
 
I have looked into a few proportioners and lost interest. If I had more time to spend on things like that I would like to put something together. Hydraulics, I like the sound of that. I saw someone here with a very impressive flatwork trailer that ran hydraulics. I am going to look into it, thanks for the input. I'm not real excited about running those kind of hours on my truck, as far as a pto goes. I am going to talk to guys I know about hydraulics, thanks for pointing that out.
 
greg/sd said:
Tim have you thought about hydraulics off a big motor to run all the pumps. i thought about doing that a while back. I think some of the izusus are set up with pto for hydraulics. i have seen some lawn spray trucks with hydraulics running some big bean pumps. Black knight makes some sweeper trucks that run hydraulics off the main motor to the sweeper. the electric clutches just dont look tuff enough to me.
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Thanks, the clutches were my concern. I am glad you mentioned the hydraulics.
 
taselton2 said:
I have looked into a few proportioners and lost interest. If I had more time to spend on things like that I would like to put something together. Hydraulics, I like the sound of that. I saw someone here with a very impressive flatwork trailer that ran hydraulics. I am going to look into it, thanks for the input. I'm not real excited about running those kind of hours on my truck, as far as a pto goes. I am going to talk to guys I know about hydraulics, thanks for pointing that out.
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Tim I does absorb a lot of your time (talking from experience), especially if the discipline being investigated is not your "cup of tea". I think it maybe worth finding a company that specializes in in-line chemical injection and allow then give you a quote for what you want to accomplish.

Think about it............ no on-site mixing, just a barrel of each concentrate and water, 2 electrical chem injection pumps and one supply pump. You may not need hydraulics. One engine driver, driving one pump and generator.


I too have looked into hydraulics, but budget constraints make it only a dream. Here is one of the hydraulic sites that is interesting:

http://www.fosterhydraulics.com/Pages/Diesel Complete/Diesel Complete Larger.html
 
They run machines from isuzu's all the time. I'd bet that it can be done cheaper than you think. ( and done right)
I was thinking of doing it. There are a lot of possibilites
 
810f250 said:
Tim I does absorb a lot of your time (talking from experience), especially if the discipline being investigated is not your "cup of tea". I think it maybe worth finding a company that specializes in in-line chemical injection and allow then give you a quote for what you want to accomplish.

Think about it............ no on-site mixing, just a barrel of each concentrate and water, 2 electrical chem injection pumps and one supply pump. You may not need hydraulics. One engine driver, driving one pump and generator.


I too have looked into hydraulics, but budget constraints make it only a dream. Here is one of the hydraulic sites that is interesting:

http://www.fosterhydraulics.com/Pages/Diesel Complete/Diesel Complete Larger.html
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I have done a lot of research and it is very time consuming. I have a pretty good budget for new equipment, I will make some calls and see if anyone is interested (chem injection). Those prices make the electric clutches look pretty good.
 
David O'Connell Jr said:
They run machines from isuzu's all the time. I'd bet that it can be done cheaper than you think. ( and done right)
I was thinking of doing it. There are a lot of possibilites
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I clean a pest control company annually and they have several. If I can get some time I will go check them out.
 
David, you would figure with the engines hp and tourqe you could keep the rpms fairly low and generate good power.
 
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