Tony Shelton
BS Detector, Esquire
The poll above is multiple choice. You may choose more than one.
This is a public poll to make sure the results aren't stacked with a bunch of fake users.
After two weeks, hundreds of posts and 16000 views it is apparent that Robert and the PWNA are again unfazed by any dissatisfaction in his BMP's and the manner he is presenting them to regulators.
I've asked him over and over again WHY he added the previously unheard of "hot water is the same as so@p" and he has given me no answer other than a few instances where 110 degree water isn't supposed to go into the storm drain, based on the old fact that factories used to dump millions of gallons of elevated temp water directly into lakes and streams.
I've asked him twice now if there is anything he would change on the BMP's or the Presentation of his bmps (presenting us as polluters) and again he has failed to provide a written answer, leaving us to the obvious answer that is "there is nothing that needs to change".
Regardless of what his motives are (I suppose they could be as pure as the driven snow), we need to make some decisions here.
What do we want to do at this point? Robert keeps bringing up the fact that we shouldn't try to build a new foundation.
Well, gentlemen, if we had an oak tree and wanted an apple tree, we could pin apples to it till we are blue in the face and they would all fall off and rot because the foundation of that tree is an oak. The only way to get an apple tree is to get rid of the oak and plant an apple tree.
Is that what we need to do?
The PWNA is going to keep their course. They've made it clear by their silence that they are behind Robert 100%.
What do you guys desire of us in the UAMCC?
Do you want us to start rebuilding the reputation of our industry from scratch?
Do you want us to move forward and actively approach the regulators as Robert has been doing or
Do you want us to sit back, prepare our defense and only approach in areas where and when we are needed?
Or do you want us to try to build on Robert's foundation?
Or do you want us to leave it alone and let Robert handle it?
This is a public poll to make sure the results aren't stacked with a bunch of fake users.
After two weeks, hundreds of posts and 16000 views it is apparent that Robert and the PWNA are again unfazed by any dissatisfaction in his BMP's and the manner he is presenting them to regulators.
I've asked him over and over again WHY he added the previously unheard of "hot water is the same as so@p" and he has given me no answer other than a few instances where 110 degree water isn't supposed to go into the storm drain, based on the old fact that factories used to dump millions of gallons of elevated temp water directly into lakes and streams.
I've asked him twice now if there is anything he would change on the BMP's or the Presentation of his bmps (presenting us as polluters) and again he has failed to provide a written answer, leaving us to the obvious answer that is "there is nothing that needs to change".
Regardless of what his motives are (I suppose they could be as pure as the driven snow), we need to make some decisions here.
What do we want to do at this point? Robert keeps bringing up the fact that we shouldn't try to build a new foundation.
Well, gentlemen, if we had an oak tree and wanted an apple tree, we could pin apples to it till we are blue in the face and they would all fall off and rot because the foundation of that tree is an oak. The only way to get an apple tree is to get rid of the oak and plant an apple tree.
Is that what we need to do?
The PWNA is going to keep their course. They've made it clear by their silence that they are behind Robert 100%.
What do you guys desire of us in the UAMCC?
Do you want us to start rebuilding the reputation of our industry from scratch?
Do you want us to move forward and actively approach the regulators as Robert has been doing or
Do you want us to sit back, prepare our defense and only approach in areas where and when we are needed?
Or do you want us to try to build on Robert's foundation?
Or do you want us to leave it alone and let Robert handle it?
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