This is just for the "Tin Hats" amoung us, everyone else can go about their business.

Just in case you were wondering.


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This guy is on track for some things.

But his claim that religion, or a belief in God causes people to blindly follow authority is misguided. It is not the belief in God or religion that keeps people in check, it is a misinterpretation of Romans 13.

It happened in the revolutionary war also. It took a handful of ministers known as the "black regiment" to properly interpret that chapter showing that a people (even Christians) have the right and even the responsibility to escape tyranny when it is possible. The Bible claims "by their fruits you shall know them". The fruits of the revolutionary war resulted in the greatest and most free country this world has ever seen. I'd say that is God's stamp of approval on the proper interpretation of Romans 13.
 
Wow... here we go again.

I, in no way, want to get into a religious debate, but for what it's worth... Romans 13 is the crux that many "Christians" rely upon for their "legal authority" argument. In my opinion, Romans 13, has nothing to do with the "legal system" whatsoever. It has to do with the church and their religions thereof.

I have had this discussion many times in the past, and one in particular was with my brother (a faithful Christian) who's been with the Sheriffs Office for more than 28 years. He says [paraphrasing] "the Bible says you must submit to the government..." and "without government we would have total anarchy...". This is complete nonsense.

I don't believe the reference "... that religion, or a belief in God causes people to blindly follow authority" is out of line. Think about it for a minute... people go to church and they listen to an "authority" speak on the subject of "authority" and reference Romans 13 as their evidence. That evidence has been sculpted to do just that... get people to blindly follow "authority". It's all about faith, is it not? Have "faith" in the "authority" to do what's right.

The part that gets me fired up the most is the radical change from the KJV to the NKJV wherein "higher powers" is substituted with "governing authorities". Why would they make such a drastic change between versions? The only reason I can think of is control (controlling the masses). Nowhere on this planet is there a more captive audience than in church. I'm not a theologian and I don't profess to be a scholar in any related subject either, but damn... that's a massive change in the meaning of the message.

Romans 13 is briefly referenced in this video.


BTW, what is the misinterpretation in Romans 13 that you mentioned?
 
We already have law in this country. It's called the constitution. Perversions and sidestepping of that law is illegal. Any entity that oversteps the bounds of that law is operating illegally. It's our duty as Christians uphold that law to stop the anarchy that has already begun by those in power who only seek to increase that power.

That is what happened in the American Revolution. The authorities (the king and his minions) were breaking English common law. It wasn't just about taxes. The patriots came together and overthrew the corrupt government and set up a republic that was brilliant. It protected individual rights even if 99% of the country didn't like it. That is the difference between a democracy and a republic.

Romans 13 says that governments are put in place to punish wrongdoers here on earth. It also says that if you are not a wrongdoer, you should have no fear of the government. With that in mind the only way it doesn't contradict the entire remaining Bible would be if we understood it to mean that as long as the government does its job and punishes wrongdoers under the law, it is our responsibility to pay taxes and stand behind the government.

The old Testament is filled with overthrown governments sanctioned by God. God doesn't change.

The guy in the video does not believe in respecting any authority, including the supreme authority. There can be no law, nor any morality if each man is a law unto himself. Under his philosophy someone might decide that they think there is nothing wrong with me killing children and eating them. Using his logic, since there is no authority under which we are to hold ourselves accountable, the cannibal's own authority is as good as anyone else's.

There is a final authority. He laid the foundation for every moral law. It's up to us to go back, read his word, discover that law and support a government that upholds those basic principles.
 
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