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From start, Bush team focused on war with Iraq: documents
By Dan De Luce (AFP) – 11 hours ago
WASHINGTON — Former president George W. Bush's advisers focused on toppling Saddam Hussein's regime as soon as he took office and discussed how to justify a war in Iraq shortly after invading Afghanistan in 2001, official documents showed Wednesday.
A few hours after the September 11 attacks in 2001, then defense secretary Donald Rumsfeld spoke of attacking Iraq as well as Osama bin Laden, according to notes of a meeting on that day, newly declassified papers show.
Rumsfeld told a Pentagon lawyer to go to his deputy to get "support" showing a supposed link between the Iraqi regime and Al-Qaeda's founder, according to the papers posted by the Washington-based National Security Archive, an independent research institute.
The US government has since acknowledged that Saddam's regime had no role in the 9/11 attacks.
In June and July of 2001, senior administration officials seized on intercepted aluminum tubes as proof that Iraq was pursuing nuclear weapons, even before a preliminary assessment of the tubes, according to two State Department memos to then secretary of state Colin Powell.
One memo states the US government's interest in "publicizing the interdiction to our advantage" and "getting the right story out" about the tubes, which were soon found to have no nuclear connection.
Confronting Iraq was also the focus of a July 2001 memo to the national security adviser at the time, Condoleezza Rice, with Rumsfeld urging a high-level meeting on policy towards Baghdad.
Voicing concern that sanctions were proving a failure and that Iraq's air defenses were improving, Rumsfeld warned: "Within a few years the US will undoubtedly have to confront a Saddam armed with nuclear weapons."
Forecasting an optimistic outcome far from the result the Iraq war produced, Rumsfeld said that Washington's image in the region and the world would benefit from toppling Saddam.
"If Saddam's regime were ousted, we would have a much-improved position in the region and elsewhere," he wrote. "A major success in Iraq would enhance US credibility and influence throughout the region."
Another document shows Rumsfeld discussing war plans for Iraq just two months after the 2001 US invasion of Afghanistan.
In a meeting with the then head of US Central Command, General Tommy Franks, the defense chief tells him to ready forces for the "decapitation" of the Iraqi regime.
In talking points dated November 27, Rumsfeld lists possible triggers the Bush administration could use to start a war, including Iraqi military action against the US-protected enclave in northern Iraq, discovery of ties between Saddam and 9/11 or recent anthrax attacks and disputes with UN weapons inspections.
In a December 18, 2001 memo, the State Department's analytical unit warns that France and Germany will likely oppose an invasion of Iraq without concrete proof that Baghdad was behind the 9/11 attacks.
The same memo warns that British support for a US war would come at a political cost for the prime minister, Tony Blair, and could trigger a backlash from the country's Muslim population.
Backing the US war "could bring a radicalization of British Muslims, the great majority of whom opposed the September 11 attacks but are increasingly restive about what they see as an anti-Islamic campaign," the memo states.
The documents posted Wednesday were released under a Freedom of Information request.
 
The day the Democrats took over was not January 22nd 2009 -- it was actually January 3rd 2007.

The day the Democrats took over the House of Representatives & Senate, the start of the 110th Congress.

The Democratic Party controlled a majority in both chambers for the first time since the end of the 103rd Congress in 1995.

"For those of you who are listening to the liberals propagating the fallacy that everything is "Bush's Fault," think about this:

January 3rd, 2007 was the day the Democrats took over the Senate and the Congress:

At the time:
The DOW Jones closed at 12,621.77
The GDP for the previous quarter was 3.5%
The Unemployment rate was 4.6%

George Bush's Economic policies SET A RECORD of 52 STRAIGHT MONTHS of JOB CREATION!

Remember the day.

January 3rd, 2007 was the day that Barney Frank took over the House
Financial Services Committee and Chris Dodd took over the Senate Banking Committee.

The economic meltdown that happened 15 months later was in what part of the economy?
BANKING AND FINANCIAL SERVICES!

THANK YOU DEMOCRATS for taking us from 13,000 DOW, 3.5 GDP and 4.6%
Unemployment to this CRISIS by (among MANY other things) dumping 5-6 TRILLION
Dollars of toxic loans on the economy from YOUR Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac FIASCOS!

(BTW: Bush asked Congress 17 TIMES to stop Fannie & Freddie - starting in 2001 because it was financially risky for the US economy).

And who took the THIRD highest pay-off from Fannie Mae AND Freddie Mac?

OBAMA

And who fought against reform of Fannie and Freddie?

OBAMA & the Democratic Congress

So when some idiot tries to blame Bush

REMEMBER JANUARY 3rd, 2007 THE DAY THE DEMOCRATS TOOK OVER!

Bush may have been in the car but the Democrats were in charge of the gas pedal and steering wheel they were driving.

"It's not that liberals aren't smart, it's just that so much of what they know isn't so." -Ronald Reagan
 
I agree Bush's Tax CUTS at the end of his term helped a lot, and we should have kept cutting Taxes, instead of these socialized bail outs that have done little, except to put our unborn grandkids in debt!
 
They are all Crap!!!!!

Yup pretty much

Bush is proven to have lied about Iraq, but most won't admit it. Saddam was contained. I sure wish we spent all that money on going after BinLaden instead of Saddam. We would be in a lot less debt too
Bush was going to go after Saddam no matter what and it cost thousands of our soldiers their lives. Its a shame, but of course most will never admit it

Where is Bin Laden? At least there has been no terrorist attacks on the USA in the first 20 months of Obama admin, they keep sending drone planes out and whacking those A hole terrorist

Drone attacks have tripled under Obama admin. Good for you Obama. A lot less costly in US lives and and pocket books. Kill them all!!! You can all beat up on Obama all you want but I give him credit for this

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-10648909
 
President George W. Bush's administration, only weeks before leaving office, gave GM and Chrysler $17.4 billion in loans after legislation to speed loans to the companies failed in Congress. Everyone forgets who started handing out all the money first!!!

The economy runs in cycles so if anyone thinks one party is responsible for the economic crisis we are in then they are very niave. Bush's tax cuts only favored people making over 200,000.00 a year if you research it, and Bush's tax cuts didn't help the middle class!!

I am in grad school working on my Doctorate in Physical Therapy so trust me I'm not a liberal because the health care option makes me think I may never pay back my school loans. Why can't we all work for four years and get the same benefits our politicians in congress get. The politicians are all corrupt and all they care about is getting re-elected, and padding there pockets not whether you and I pay more or less in taxes, or if we can afford health care.
 
Jim please post your source as to who the tax cust help. Funny, read the article below. Why is it that the democrats are trying to KEEP the tax cuts for the middle class? How could they keep the tax cuts for the middle class if there werent any to begin with???!?!?!? Stop watching the news and listening to your professors.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100...1332.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_LEFTWhatsNewsCollection

Tell me whats wrong with tax cuts for the wealthy anyhow? Did a poor man ever sign your paycheck? Nope. Mine either.
 
President George W. Bush's administration, only weeks before leaving office, gave GM and Chrysler $17.4 billion in loans after legislation to speed loans to the companies failed in Congress. Everyone forgets who started handing out all the money first!!!

The economy runs in cycles so if anyone thinks one party is responsible for the economic crisis we are in then they are very niave. Bush's tax cuts only favored people making over 200,000.00 a year if you research it, and Bush's tax cuts didn't help the middle class!!

I am in grad school working on my Doctorate in Physical Therapy so trust me I'm not a liberal because the health care option makes me think I may never pay back my school loans. Why can't we all work for four years and get the same benefits our politicians in congress get. The politicians are all corrupt and all they care about is getting re-elected, and padding there pockets not whether you and I pay more or less in taxes, or if we can afford health care.

Oh and most TRUE conservatives, didnt like GW either. He was just Obama-lite.
 
Just posting my opinion I know better than getting into a back and forth on here. I can appreciate your take on politics but know that I cannot change anyones mind. My professors know better than to bring up politics so no influence there. All I am sure of is my p/c business is getting more profitable every year and I'm still working six days a week due to the good information from this website.
 
Just posting my opinion I know better than getting into a back and forth on here. I can appreciate your take on politics but know that I cannot change anyones mind. My professors know better than to bring up politics so no influence there. All I am sure of is my p/c business is getting more profitable every year and I'm still working six days a week due to the good information from this website.

I can respect that. But Id still love to see your source that proves the tax cuts were for the rich only....
 
Remember the lie that 90% of the guns in Mexico come from America ??? More Mexican, ant America propaganda:

According to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) only 17 percent of the guns recovered by Mexican authorities are traceable to the United States; a far cry from the 90 percent perpetuated by the Mexican government" www.examiner.com/county-political-buzz-in-san-diego/guns-fuel-drug-cartels-mexico

If fact, the majority of American made weapons (17%) that are currently in Mexico came from February of 1997, the Jimmy (BLUNDER) Clinton Administration announcing the Mexican government was a “full ally” in the war on drugs. In doing so Clinton’s Drug Czar, Army General Barry McCaffrey, described Mexican General Jesus Gutierrez Rebollo, who led the Mexican National Institute to Combat Drugs (INCD) as a “man of absolute unquestioned character.” The 38,000 M-16 were delivered (free, of course, at the expense of the American taxpayer) to the Mexican military. Over the years, when these military trained individual desert the military to work for the Cartels, they also steal as many M-16, M5's and other Military weapons and provide them to the cartels as a "gift"

http://www.examiner.com/county-poli...tured-along-the-arizona-mexico-border-picture
 
Scott ,

I did look up the tax rates from previous years on Bank Rate and you were right the middle class tax rate hasn't changed only the cut offs for income within a couple thousand. I don't believe however that a 2% tax cut is really that significant for most people, just like the big stimulus checks. The people making over 300,000 did get a 3.6% tax break, not to mention the reduction in capital gains, so in the end they made out much better than the lower earning tax brackets.
I think if the Federal government would get out of our lives as the founding fathers had initially designed the constitution we would have no need for the huge taxation.
 
Scott ,

I did look up the tax rates from previous years on Bank Rate and you were right the middle class tax rate hasn't changed only the cut offs for income within a couple thousand. I don't believe however that a 2% tax cut is really that significant for most people, just like the big stimulus checks. The people making over 300,000 did get a 3.6% tax break, not to mention the reduction in capital gains, so in the end they made out much better than the lower earning tax brackets.
I think if the Federal government would get out of our lives as the founding fathers had initially designed the constitution we would have no need for the huge taxation.

Yes it sounds like a talking point, but if it werent for the people making over 300k, the people making less than that would have a job to begin with. So I believe that they SHOULD be treated better and get more breaks.
 
Scott, I can't stop glancing back at your new logo. It's mesmerizing in an uncomfortable sort of way. Why can't I stop looking back at that guy? I think I need professional help. :)

Thats the point. If you see my truck in person, the guy with the thumbs up is so big its almost overbearing. I watch people craning their necks as they drive by. Could be too distracting though and they may not see what we even do. Great for branding.

If THATS why you think you need professional help, you're worse off than I thought. Hahaha :rotflmao1:
 
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