Seriously There is nothing Wrong with Publicly when doing a COmmunity Project and do not listen to stuff like this.
Seriously There is nothing Wrong with Publicly when doing a COmmunity Project and do
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Seriously There is nothing Wrong with Publicly when doing a COmmunity Project and do not listen to stuff like this.
6 “Beware of practicing your righteousness before other people in order to be seen by them, for then you will have no reward from your Father who is in heaven.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]“Thus, when you give to the needy, sound no trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be praised by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. [SUP]3 [/SUP]But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, [SUP]4 [/SUP]so that your giving may be in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you.
Hope this helps.
Marko
Marko great post, helps keep things in prespective!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I thought this post in that thread was spot on, thanks for bringing my attention to it
[SUP]2 [/SUP]“Thus, when you give to the needy, sound no trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be praised by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. [SUP]3 [/SUP]But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, [SUP]4 [/SUP]so that your giving may be in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you.
Hope this helps.
Marko
Marko great post, helps keep things in prespective!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I thought this post in that thread was spot on, thanks for bringing my attention to it
I believe that Too, but anyone bringing there business into a personal Service isn't looking for a Spiritual movement to begin with.
Service to Fellow man isn't done from the Business Platform PERiod.
So I see the Points, do you see mine?
I think that Some of you are Confusing the two, personal Salvations and service to Fellow Man VERSUS helping a customer Charity that I have no interest other than Pleasing my customers has nothing to do with each other.
Service to Fellow man isn't done from the Business Platform PERiod.
So I see the Points, do you see mine?
Be carful Bringing POST from TGS over, they get Upset
I think that Some of you are Confusing the two, personal Salvations and service to Fellow Man VERSUS helping a customer Charity that I have no interest other than Pleasing my customers has nothing to do with each other.
Cleaning a National monument FREE , I cannot See any Value for anyone other than personal bragging rights. LOL
It certainly didn't help anyone but those doing it!!
It certainly didn't help anyone but those doing it!!
Rapid HotClean
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A businessman contributes something good to the community and gets publicity for having done so.
Ten other guys see it.
Eight of them think they should also be helping out.
Five of them actually do something and the community further benefits.
What's wrong with that model?
Ten other guys see it.
Eight of them think they should also be helping out.
Five of them actually do something and the community further benefits.
What's wrong with that model?
Nothing is, helping with my business has been fun and often moved me from some of the projects. We grow in many ways
Rapid HotClean
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Right on!
Tony Shelton
BS Detector, Esquire
When you own a business your obligation is to your employees first. If you have an employee who is struggling yet you choose to do free projects for people who could pay without any promotional benefit I just don't see how that is giving back.
If the intent is to promote the company for the benefit of your employees that makes more sense.
There is no biblical example of an employer giving away services as a form of charity that I can think of other than Lydia who appears to have done it by her own hand personally.
There are lots of examples of the boss of giving to the poor personally.
What we forget sometimes is that guys like David, Abraham, Moses, Job and Lazarus were big time businessmen with many in their "household" (employees). They took care of them as if they were their own and their charity works were separate.
That is what separated them from the other cultures who treated their employees like slaves.
I am not big on company based charity. I just don't see a biblical precedence for it. We have done some free work when it was needed and the customer truly couldn't pay. But it has been discussed among all of us and we all agreed from the tech to the office that it would be done for free. And nobody got paid for it. We all participate.
That's just my opinion on it. Ron and I are in disagreement on this and always have been.
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If the intent is to promote the company for the benefit of your employees that makes more sense.
There is no biblical example of an employer giving away services as a form of charity that I can think of other than Lydia who appears to have done it by her own hand personally.
There are lots of examples of the boss of giving to the poor personally.
What we forget sometimes is that guys like David, Abraham, Moses, Job and Lazarus were big time businessmen with many in their "household" (employees). They took care of them as if they were their own and their charity works were separate.
That is what separated them from the other cultures who treated their employees like slaves.
I am not big on company based charity. I just don't see a biblical precedence for it. We have done some free work when it was needed and the customer truly couldn't pay. But it has been discussed among all of us and we all agreed from the tech to the office that it would be done for free. And nobody got paid for it. We all participate.
That's just my opinion on it. Ron and I are in disagreement on this and always have been.
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You Didn't Listen to the Video, Its simple I do not Believe in Service to fellow man has anything to do with one another.
When a Customer asks me to Help I do, I also do it with out question. If a promo opportunity arises we take it. I often do not have any personal attachment to any of this other than assisting my customers and helping them with something they have a passion for.
Sometimes I'm touched, sometimes its just a lot of fun or both. Others its just work!!
I pay all my employees for all of it, often bonus time Pay. From the Examples of others they have also experienced the growth from with in and touched.
Its a Separate issue on my personal Salvation and beliefs in my service to men. Totally
I never confuse the two, doesn't work for me.
Tony Shelton
BS Detector, Esquire
No one listened to that video Ron. This is the post MTV age, no one can handle a 15 minute video. Lol!
Looks like we agree more than I thought.
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Looks like we agree more than I thought.
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Better Learn how to Separate , cause if you really Embrace helping customers it cannot get so personal all the time.
keep in mind you might do something you think your heart might not be in and find out you are correct. Easier just to Keep the business , business.
Personal Personal
Tony Shelton
BS Detector, Esquire
I guess my way of thinking is if you have an employee you can't buy health insurance for or who is having a problem paying rent, you really don't have any business giving free work to the government, schools or other places that have plenty of money to spend on lavish Hawaiian conferences.
That is, unless your only purpose is promotion.
This is all just my opinion. There is no right or wrong here as far as I can see.
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Scott Stone
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If we, as a company do charitable work, everyone gets paid. If I am doing something personal, I pray that no one will hear about it.
As for cleaning a monument, that is taking money away from other contractors for personal gratification.
As for cleaning a monument, that is taking money away from other contractors for personal gratification.
I agree with that, any profit place of business including ball parks.
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