Safety Meeting Room

1) Don't use a person to tie your safety rope off to when on a roof.
2) Don't be the person that is holding the safety rope that is attached to another person when on a roof

True story, saw it a few weeks ago. Apartment Complex going up right down the street from me. I look up on the roof and a roofer that is puttin shingles down at the roof edge is wearing a safety harness, rope is attached to harness and as you scan up the roof there is another guy standing there HOLDING the rope.

I took a pic, I'll see if I can find it. I had planned to post it in in the Stupid Pictures thread.
 
Always doublecheck how tight the lids are on your 55 gallon drums before transporting. This was something Steve (Stephens) rarely did, but for some reason felt compelled to do the day he had his accident. When his truck crashed, the drums came through the back window and broke his neck. However, not a drop of acid spilled.
 
Hold safety meetings, and continual instruction on chemicals, and their proper usage.

About 15 years ago, I had a couple of kids working for me. I was washing away on some trucks, and had a pump up sprayer full of HF that was on my trailer. As I came around the side of the truck, I see one of the intellectually challenged individuals holding the end of the wand to his mouth, and the other getting ready to squeeze the trigger. Idiots.
 
Scott Stone said:
Hold safety meetings, and continual instruction on chemicals, and their proper usage.

About 15 years ago, I had a couple of kids working for me. I was washing away on some trucks, and had a pump up sprayer full of HF that was on my trailer. As I came around the side of the truck, I see one of the intellectually challenged individuals holding the end of the wand to his mouth, and the other getting ready to squeeze the trigger. Idiots.
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I remember I was that kid


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Tie Downs

Before hauling ANYthing over 300lbs, in the bed of a truck,
Add a Safety-bar across the window area to insure it canNOT try to squish you in an accident.
I always used a Roll bar, with added cross-bars, in standard pick-ups.
Also, we ALWAYS add leaf-springs under the truck for stiffer suspension..
Resistance against sway, is resistance against "roll".

Also, load heavy anything up against the cab,
NEVER against the tailgate.
I scold customers about this ALL the time..
Don't let projectiles come though your back window.

Every time we see bungee-cords holding a machine in the back of a truck,
we offer the customer free rope to properly secure the load.

I remember a guy rented a steam cleaner from us one day..
we loaded it into his mini-truck, and watched him reach for tie-downs to tie it in,
he said "I have it from here".. we went back in the office..
Next thing I know, he's driving down the alley, and when he hit the breaks at the stop-sign.. CRASH !!
..the handle went through his window.
That was the LAST time we let a rental leave without SHOWing the customer how "we want" it secured.

about Tie Downs:
PIck-up trucks rarely have "enough" tie-points mounted in the bed, for hauling drums and equipment..
You know those door-latches on your car or truck that hold the doors closed..
take a close look,, those can be used as the BEEFIEST tiedowns and cheap..
especially if there's a junkyard close by.
We cut a piece of 1/4" thick plate, and use it as a backing with grade-8 bolts for adding tiedowns in the back of our pick-ups..
Very beefy, very secure, and very low cost.
 
Flipper said:
I started a thread about safety a few months ago and got beat up pretty good. I still don't understand that. Here is an industry safety standard written to protect operators from injury and still to this date, my thread is the only one I can find on the forum that even mentions it.

http://www.propowerwash.com/board/u...sure-washer-safety-standard&highlight=UL-1776
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Philip, if you can't read that thread yourself and see that we are talking about apples and oranges here I don't think there is anything we can do to further explain it.

Here is a quote you made from that thread:

Flipper said:
I must admit I am thoroughly perplexed at the responses and hostility in this thread.

This is a safety standard that was written to protect you with the equipment you use every day. I posted about it because its a subject that's never been discussed on this forum.
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Flipper said:
Its not a mandatory requirement and government has nothing to do with the standard. No one forces any of you to buy equipment that is certified to this standard.

Manufacturers build to this standard because one, its the right thing to do and two, the liability one would incur if someone got hurt using a machine that wasn't certified or may not have all of the safety features it should.

I wanted to bring up this point because in all the equipment threads, I don't see any reference to safety. This is a top priority with most manufacturers, so there seems to be a disconnect here.

Since the issue has never been discussed here before, I just thought you guys might appreciate knowing about it.
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You made that quote AFTER you posted this marketing piece of yours:

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See, you're so caught up in your own delusion that I guess you believe it yourself. Your standards have nothing to do with safety and everything to do with reducing competition. As I stated before, you already make some of the best pressure washers in the world, but that's not enough, you want to make the only ones in the world I guess. Good luck. I won't be buying anymore of them after this.

You are playing word games. You are claiming that we are not "forced" to buy the equipment, but the message is loud and clear that if we "don't" buy the equipment eventually we will be sued.

It's a pathetic way for a company as large and successful as yours to operate.


 
Tony,

Do you really believe that the only reason we build to a UL standard is to eliminate competition? Virtually all of the large manufacturers build to this standard now.

We do it because its the right thing to do.

No one forces anyone to buy a certified machine. The paragraph you have chosen to highlight is about electric units and has nothing to do with the mobile wash industry.

I posted that thread because I found it odd that manufacturers have spent a ton of time and energy to get their equipment certified and it was a topic that had never been discussed on this forum.
 
I was just about to post and got a call from Philip.

In this day and age it's difficult to make any product without someone abusing it's use and blaming the manufacturer.

These certifications provide guidelines that can be documented and later examined if accidents happen. They also give an opportunity to educate the customer.

While I'm not one for getting the government involved in much of anything business related I can see why there was a need for this type of thing.

It's not so much a failure on the part of Philip's industry as it is a failure of our society as a whole. If people took responsibility for their own stupidity we could get by without all this interference.

He made a lot of good points. I retract my earlier comments about his motivations. I believe I was wrong.
 
Hey Tony,

Appreciate your time on the phone. I didn't realize all the regulatory baloney you guys were going through with the BMP's. Glad we were able to share some thoughts. I'll buy you a beer next time I'm in Vegas.
 
Carburetor over-flowing gasoline

Good job gentlemen !!

Now, let's keep this thread about examples of environmental health and safety.

Today, I stopped somebody's employee from tossing a cigarrertte butt in the back of his work truck,
right after I explained to his boss the reason his carburetor was over-flowing gasoline
on his way to our service dept.
Train yer peeps to shut-off the fuel valve on every machine, every time you shutdown the engine.
..or you could end up with fuel diluting the oil, or unable to turn over the engine,
or fouled spark plugs, or flame shooting out the exhaust pipe,
or a fireball in bumb-azz's face. ..and a fried truck.
 
Jerry we are making you the TECh guy here. wash water control Expert
Sirocco Jerry said:
Environmental Health and Safety..
one of the largest business opportunities on the planet today,
and here we sit in the middle of it..
we are Enviro-Clean-Up Specialists. Eh?
We will profit, and all that, BUT..
We are constantly reminded we MUST engage in Best Management this,
compliance that,
and looking over our shoulders.. Liability.. in EVERY way.

We need a "meeting Room" to remind eachother to "stay alive"
..in EVERY way..
Get sales, be profitable, do it safely,
be compliant, pay your insurance,
repeat. ..day, after day.

if you're not sure where I'm coming from.. let me paint a picture..

Roof cleaning is a "slip and fall hazard".

chemicals are "liability problems in a bottle".

employees are your first impression, and WORST "exposure problem".

your equipment is all the above.. an "everything hazard"..
from spills, to fires, to blown coils, to broken ladder,
Hot water spraying on a passer by.

MOST importantly.. "personal BMP's" need to be handed to every employee,
If you don't have employees, you STILL need "personal BMP's"
..and to READ them,
..EVERY time your wife says "be careful" as you go out to the next job.

I have seen "seasoned veterans" make the most amazingly dumb-a$$ mistakes..
like NEVER wearing earplugs.. you are GOING to go deaf.
And water spraying forward at 475 MPH (4000 psi at the nozzle)
throws those little rocks right back in your face at 200 MPH or more.
would you ride a motorcycle at that speed without goggles ??

We need a place (here) to post what went wrong,
what almost went wrong, and what could possibly go wrong.
We need to teach eachother to "actively" focus on our own
.. environmental health and safety.

each example deserves it's own thread..

Let the Safety Meeting begin ! :smash:
..ACtually it already started,
..and those posts should be moved into this new area.
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At the begining of a shift, a "Daily Tool Box Meeting" is a great way to start. Spend 5-10 mins covering saftey issues and concerns. Starting a shift with a quick safety meeting is great way to get safety on your employees brains before they start their shift.
 
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