Mobile cleaning Brochure for Customer education

Ron Musgraves

Ron Musgraves

Exterior Restoration Specialist
Staff member
This is the type of Brochure being used by Mobile cleaner in some Markets to scare Customers.


Do I approve of these types of tactic? Not a real solid business practice, providing false and not telling the customer all the options will get you introuble.

We need a full and comprehensive Brouchure from our own National Organizations.

I truly plan on Working on this in 2011
 

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While page one was just an ad for a particular entity that trains in waste water issues, I thought the second page was pretty informative and easy to follow and understand.
I agree with Eric and Jenny, it's difficult when the local authority knows little about it. I'm disappointed that you have a lack of knowledge in a major city like Houston! I was a little disappointed in my city, being they are a "platinum star, super green city". But, I expected as much due to the small size.
What would you change in such a flyer? Going to mobile contractors? Going to private customers? Going to municipalities and public customers?
 
Eric and Jenny said:
Like we discussed, we need to implement some type of public awareness campaign- especially in our area.

But HOW when City officials are confused themselves?

~Jen
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Jen the law is the law right now. Its very clear they are going to arrest any business owner not complying.

I would raise the awareness to local business owner that you need to be handling this so they do not go to Jail and pay severe fines.

These guys will arrest and prosecute in the Houston city limits.

Please understand that you need to work educating the customers in your area. Start small and work on them as you can.

Remember whats your Zip codes around you?
 
Like we talked about, there is a HUGE opportunity in your area Eric and Jenny, just have to start talking to everyone, market to them and help educate them, especially since you already have the right reclaim equipment.

It is going to take time to get things changed there in Houston but one day things hopefully will be a lot different, until then you have to do what you have to do so you are in "their compliance".
 
Seems to me the biggest educating part we have to do is educating what IS and WHAT IS NOT a storm sewer drain. Houston has a slogan that all storm drains lead to the bayous and water ways, and that is not 100% true.
 
Ron Musgraves said:
Jen the law is the law right now. Its very clear they are going to arrest any business owner not complying.

I would raise the awareness to local business owner that you need to be handling this so they do not go to Jail and pay severe fines.

These guys will arrest and prosecute in the Houston city limits.

Please understand that you need to work educating the customers in your area. Start small and work on them as you can.

Remember whats your Zip codes around you?
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Exactly.

So they are still placing the responsibility on both the contractor and the business owner correct? Both can get fined and face possible jail time? I just need to know before I start designing some type of flyer or brochure.

I will PM you the zip codes.

~Jen
 
Christopher said:
Like we talked about, there is a HUGE opportunity in your area Eric and Jenny, just have to start talking to everyone, market to them and help educate them, especially since you already have the right reclaim equipment.

It is going to take time to get things changed there in Houston but one day things hopefully will be a lot different, until then you have to do what you have to do so you are in "their compliance".
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Yes sir. It will take time but it's something that we need to straighten out for the sake of everyone.

~Jen
 
I have never knowingly been to a "police state" but it sure seemed like Houston is becoming a "police state" in a way.

They sure are hell-bent on giving citations if you don't:

1. Pay the application fee.
2. Get Registered and pay the monthly fee or yearly fee ($660.00)
3. Get your equipment inspected before working.
4. Get a contractor number.
5. Haul the wash water to the location or pay a registered company to haul the wash water for you (you have to pay them).
6. Pay for the disposal of the wash water.
7. Pay $3.50 for each manifest for the wash water being disposed of properly at their designated locations.

Did I miss anything here? hahahahaha
 
Christopher said:
I have never knowingly been to a "police state" but it sure seemed like Houston is becoming a "police state" in a way.

They sure are hell-bent on giving citations if you don't:

1. Pay the application fee.
2. Get Registered and pay the monthly fee or yearly fee ($660.00)
3. Get your equipment inspected before working.
4. Get a contractor number.
5. Haul the wash water to the location or pay a registered company to haul the wash water for you (you have to pay them).
6. Pay for the disposal of the wash water.
7. Pay $3.50 for each manifest for the wash water being disposed of properly at their designated locations.

Did I miss anything here? hahahahaha
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Thats about it
 
Christopher said:
I have never knowingly been to a "police state" but it sure seemed like Houston is becoming a "police state" in a way.

They sure are hell-bent on giving citations if you don't:

1. Pay the application fee.
2. Get Registered and pay the monthly fee or yearly fee ($660.00)
3. Get your equipment inspected before working.
4. Get a contractor number.
5. Haul the wash water to the location or pay a registered company to haul the wash water for you (you have to pay them).
6. Pay for the disposal of the wash water.
7. Pay $3.50 for each manifest for the wash water being disposed of properly at their designated locations.

Did I miss anything here? hahahahaha
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Yes. I think filing the manifest is only $2.50. Unless they raised it and I missed that in the seminar. It was tough listening and keeping an eye on Ron at the same time.
 
Christopher said:
I have never knowingly been to a "police state" but it sure seemed like Houston is becoming a "police state" in a way.

They sure are hell-bent on giving citations if you don't:

1. Pay the application fee.
2. Get Registered and pay the monthly fee or yearly fee ($660.00)
3. Get your equipment inspected before working.
4. Get a contractor number.
5. Haul the wash water to the location or pay a registered company to haul the wash water for you (you have to pay them).
6. Pay for the disposal of the wash water.
7. Pay $3.50 for each manifest for the wash water being disposed of properly at their designated locations.

Did I miss anything here? hahahahaha
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WOW, what a PITA

When did Houston & Texas elect all democrats. I thought it was a big republican area. Sound like one big tax on small businesses and a police state

This crap needs to stop, they just want have small businesses and average Joes pay for this darn recession.
What the heck are they certifying people for houses, roofs etc. Bullchit
 
jlpressure said:
Was the PWNA or UAMCC there and did they speak at all?
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Are either org in business still.......? Since people stopped talking about the UAMCC and stopped promoting the PWNA they have sorta went away. I don't see a reason in rejoining the PWNA or becoming a member of the UAMCC. There's no value in a Logo for me.......
 
Lou Zehnder said:
Are either org in business still.......? Since people stopped talking about the UAMCC and stopped promoting the PWNA they have sorta went away. I don't see a reason in rejoining the PWNA or becoming a member of the UAMCC. There's no value in a Logo for me.......
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I havent been on the UAMCC BB for quite some time, don't have any clue what they are doing .
The PWNA I am not a member but I read here somewhere they are having a House Washing Certification at a RT and its $149. I'm going to pass on that certification, I don't wash houses LOL

I was just wondering if either spoke in Houston or fought for more reasonable BMP's. I remember at the Fort Worth RT some time back the PWNA kept talking about "Strength in Numbers"
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At this event they offered opportunities to ask questions but basically it was to inform you that if you don't follow their guidelines and be compliant you will be fined and if you don't have a clue and continue to not comply you can be fined out of existence. hahahahaha j/k.

I think that at our table (Ron M., Doug, Michael T. and a few others), we asked maybe 1/3 to 1/2 of all the questions at the meeting and there were a lot of conflicting answers, head scratching, deer-in-the-headlights-looks, some eyes glazed over and other funny expressions when they were asked specific questions.

I think that things can get better but it will take some time, correctly labeling the storm water drains and parking lot drains that are drywells, educating everyone that was giving talks of what is needed and what needs to be changed, property owners needing some education and probably some changes on their property, explaining correctly the clean water act and how to comply without needing gestapo tactics and evolving into a police-state, etc...

With Ron M. and Robert H. helping Houston, I believe that the changes can happen and contractors can eventually go back to work without needing excessive reclaim equipment, not worrying about the RATS that are helping the enforcement officers do their jobs (I wonder what the rats are getting in return for spending so much of their time and effort to rat out other contractors????), Not having to haul wash water, not being nickel-and-dimed like crazy, not having to deal with people that are in charge but really have no clue, etc...... I believe changes can happen.
 
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