Just got banned from PWC for asking questions and stating a few facts, Wow.

Christopher

Christopher

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I just visited the PWC and there was a page that stated that I am banned there.

This is the last thing that I posted there that I remember:


I would have never thought that someone can get banned for stating facts, defending our industry and defending themselves.

Scott Stone has some of the best integrity in this industry.

This does not make sense to me.

Maybe someone with deep pockets or hidden agenda wants him to be quiet for some unknown reason as he was not causing trouble here that I saw or that others saw, just stating real facts, sticking up for the industry and defending himself.



Then Michael posted this:

Chris Chappel,
First, bans have now gone both direction in the ongoing debate the Jim Gamble and Scott Stone partake. PWC does not take sides either way. Follow the rules of the PWC and you will not be banned. This board is intended for educational purposes and to create a community that is free of the politics and drama that seem to find it way on to some many BBS.

Second, I will no longer set back and allow the innuendos and derogatory comments attacking the PWC or its moderators you are permanently banned from the forum. These attacks affect the success or the PWC our business and our abilities to provide for our families. You are no longer welcome here.

So others know your signature had all the required information that we request of our members. You removed it prior to making your last post.



I never altered my signature, someone else did that one of the moderators or someone else because I would not have done that. Something smells fishy there.

I never accused the PWC or any moderator of anything if you read what I posted, just made a comment:


Maybe someone with deep pockets or hidden agenda wants him to be quiet for some unknown reason as he was not causing trouble here that I saw or that others saw, just stating real facts, sticking up for the industry and defending himself.

I don't see how anyone can see this as attacking anyone, how can anyone see this as attacking anyone?

I wonder why a moderator or owner would have removed my signature, especially without asking me first or telling me that they are going to do this?

I was going to post there later and talk about some new technology I found out about but I guess I will not be able to.

I wonder why someone there would remove my signature? ? ? It just does not make any sense to me at all.
 
What is really strange is that in the last sentence he brings up the signature, how it had the required info and then mentions that I removed it before I made my last post.

If he did not mention that, I probably would not have noticed that someone removed my signature for a long time or until someone from over there told me about it.

I guess when you get banned for no real reason, they also remove your signature and say that you did it, How professional of them to do so. Wow.
 
Don't worry about it Chris.

Try to take it easy and lie down for a while. I have heard headaches can come on as your IQ returns back up to its normal state after having been stunted for so long absorbing all the middle school level misinformation you have been exposed to over there. Lol.

It's similar to the symptoms reported for as long as a week after a PWNA convention.

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You must be right Tony! I just got a headache after reading that I have been banned over there.

I think that is the first time/place I have been banned.

I guess that when you mention the word "someone", they interpret it as meaning moderators or the owner over there, even without innuendos or hints toward anyone at all, how strange, it just does not make sense to me at all.
 
Keep in mind if the Pwna is a non for profit then they should listen to people in the industry. Remember it's not a for profit allegedly.

If there's any consultation prize it just furthers consumers who to buy from. 86ing stone and now Chappel might be the dumbest move on the planet.

Scott spends 1000's gamble spends Zero haha who's got the last laugh!!

Scott attracts people, gamble runs them away!!!!! Haha

Scott been only caught giving facts, Jim's dealing in fiction.

Scott make factual posts & shares openly and gives from the heart!

Jim writes fictional pressure washing like Steven Spielberg.

Jim should be asked to step down and correct the statements he has made.


They seem to have a long standing problem with doing the right thing. They wonder why there business names have changed many times over the years. You think people would learn and stop dealing with them all together.
 
Ron Musgraves said:
It's Michael hinderliter bbs
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I really don't even know why you guys bother anymore. Let those guys hang themselves. People know who's the real deal and whose not.
 
Johnson said:
I really don't even know why you guys bother anymore. Let those guys hang themselves. People know who's the real deal and whose not.
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It's so much fun being able to help educate and give guys correct information...
 
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I feel that we need to help against all the mis-information being given out.

There are a lot of new contractors that really don't know the truth and will probably follow blindly, especially if an org is behind the misinformation. I would hate to hear that a contractor got fined, used a fire hose to wash something and a fire at the property was not put out in a timely manner and someone got hurt or died as a direct result all because the contractor followed another contractor's and org's advice.

There is also the mis-information about many other things out there like bmp's, regulators, wrong chemicals to clean certain surfaces, washing with hot water being an emulsifier, selling over-priced equipment for jobs when it is not needed, etc....... I would hate to learn more and more contractors are falling for the mis-information and are wasting money on equipment that is not needed and will probably not be used any time soon.
 
Christopher said:
I feel that we need to help against all the mis-information being given out.

There are a lot of new contractors that really don't know the truth and will probably follow blindly, especially if an org is behind the misinformation. I would hate to hear that a contractor got fined, used a fire hose to wash something and a fire at the property was not put out in a timely manner and someone got hurt or died as a direct result all because the contractor followed another contractor's and org's advice.

There is also the mis-information about many other things out there like bmp's, regulators, wrong chemicals to clean certain surfaces, washing with hot water being an emulsifier, selling over-priced equipment for jobs when it is not needed, etc....... I would hate to learn more and more contractors are falling for the mis-information and are wasting money on equipment that is not needed and will probably not be used any time soon.
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Yeah Chris I got banned also for saying the same thing and it was my first post there hahahhaha ha
 
That is a shame you got banned also.

You will like it here, the truth is told and you will get all kinds of help with pro's that have been in the business for decades and longer.
 
Christopher said:
I feel that we need to help against all the mis-information being given out.

There are a lot of new contractors that really don't know the truth and will probably follow blindly, especially if an org is behind the misinformation. I would hate to hear that a contractor got fined, used a fire hose to wash something and a fire at the property was not put out in a timely manner and someone got hurt or died as a direct result all because the contractor followed another contractor's and org's advice.

There is also the mis-information about many other things out there like bmp's, regulators, wrong chemicals to clean certain surfaces, washing with hot water being an emulsifier, selling over-priced equipment for jobs when it is not needed, etc....... I would hate to learn more and more contractors are falling for the mis-information and are wasting money on equipment that is not needed and will probably not be used any time soon.
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Than is the double edge sword of the internet. Anything can be out there, good and bad. What everyone has to realize is who to believe and trust. I too hate to see people being misinformed.
 
It is a two edged sword. It is a shame that someone is being allowed to promote felonious behaviors on the BBS, and if someone points out that what they are doing is illegal, they get banned. I can tell you the whole back story, but it really is a moot (mute, if you are from California or New York) because the it is what it is.
The choice has been made, and for someone reason some are allowed to back snide, backhanded and broad side attacks on others, and not be dealt with. For the life of me, I can't figure it out.
 
On a couple bbs sites there are the "special" few that get away with just about everything.

Not sure if it is a financial thing, a "special buddy" thing or something more intimate or what, it just does not make sense to me either.

It is very strange how on a site they can protect the people that are promoting illegal activities and when you ask about it, call them out on it, repeat what someone else said about it or just about anything dealing with that situation you are banned, and worse......they remove your signature and say that you did it. Wow.

I don't know if it is some special "arrangement" type of situation that they don't want to slap that "special someone's" hand or tell them to stop the spreading of info that is illegal behavior but it sure seems that way.

I agree about the machines thing, Scott Stone has more machines than most companies out there and they just burned a serious bridge as he has some of their "house brand" of machine and might have bought more of them in the near future but now with the "no reason banning", I would think that he would spend his money with distributors that don't protect people that are doing illegal things when working or have nothing to do with those type of people. It is his money and he has a lot of integrity so I think that this would be the case.

There is obviously a reason some of those people are being protected whether it is a financial thing, a special buddy thing or something more intimate or whatever, it is just a shame that people are mis-informing contractors out there and getting away with it as some of these people have an interest in having it happen and continue to let it happen for a reason, what that reason is we don't know and might never know but it just is not right and does not make sense.

I don't understand some of those people and probably never will, O Well.
 
Chris, the Hinderliters were warned about Jim far ahead of time. They (and the PWNA) chose to get in bed with him rather than work with real leaders like Scott and Ron who don't agree with what they have been doing.

Now, to give him the boot would simply prove we were right about that and open the door to the fact that we have been right about many things all along.

They painted themselves in a corner and look like fools now.

I just hope enough people remember this next time they try to discredit us the way they did investigating Ron.

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