Keeping it on property. Just like Ron always said

Tony Shelton

BS Detector, Esquire
Keep it on property.

Ron has been saying this for years. So have I.

We've been ridiculed by "icons" and "leaders" of the industry with posts like this:

Tony:

Don't you think these types of comments should be under "Mindless Blabbering 520"?

Well their is no doubt who is part of the "Ron Machine" & the "Dirty Dozen". Thanks for identifying yourselves.


And hopeless surrendering posts like this:



.........No matter what I do or others, you are not going to change the direction of the EPA; it is too strong. You will have to work within their structure.

Ron:........While that statement of "No Off Property Discharge" does not come under the Jurisdiction of the Federal EPA it may come under the Jurisdiction of the Local Authorities. Their reasoning is this: The contaminates from your power washing may be washed off property during a rain even so they have authority. Kansas City is a good example of this and is one of several jurisdictions that enforce this.

Off Property Discharge can be: Surface Runoff, Ground Water Contamination, and Air Contamination. I have represented Contract Cleaners for all three of these to AHJs as PWNA Environmental Chairman......


Other industries are fighting back....and winning:

http://nationalhogfarmer.com/environment/court-challenges-epa-s-stance-clean-water-act-discharges

A federal court’s refusal to agree to a request by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) to dismiss a case brought by West Virginia poultry farmer Lois Alt is being declared a victory for poultry and livestock farmers.

Alt sued EPA challenging an agency order demanding that she obtain a Clean Water Act discharge permit for ordinary stormwater runoff from her farmyard, according to the American Farm Bureau Federation, which supported the farmer in the case.

EPA withdrew the Alt order, but the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of West Virginia ruled that the case should go forward because EPA had not changed its stance on potential discharges to the waters of the United States and whether any potential discharges from stormwater runoff from Alt’s operation qualify for the agricultural stormwater exemption to NPDES permit requirements under the federal Clean Water Act.




Where have our defenders been?
 
Great post Tony!

That makes you wonder, when some org says it has been helping contractors for over 20 years, how come we keep on hearing that contractors are getting fined for wash water issues when an org is supposedly helping contractors?

Here a farmer took the EPA to court and won, how come an org could not do some help to contractors that are supposedly getting "fined"?

Makes you wonder what they call "help" for over 20 years that they claim they have been doing?
 
Great post Tony!

That makes you wonder, when some org says it has been helping contractors for over 20 years, how come we keep on hearing that contractors are getting fined for wash water issues when an org is supposedly helping contractors?

Here a farmer took the EPA to court and won, how come an org could not do some help to contractors that are supposedly getting "fined"?

Makes you wonder what they call "help" for over 20 years that they claim they have been doing?

They think it sells customers which it has!


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"Industry Leaders" hahahahahahaha that is a good one! hahahahaha

There are a few guys calling people they kiss butt to "Industry Leaders" like clucking chickens thinking everyone out there will also call them "Industry Leaders". hahahahaha

It amazes me how much people will kiss other peoples' butts for attention, to start threads and other useless nonsense just in hopes that other contractors out there will also start calling those people "Industry Leaders". hahahahaha

Industry Leader is something people call others out of respect, what those people have done to HELP THE INDUSTRY over the years, what those people have done to help contractors, those people that have integrity, the people that don't lie to the industry, the people that tell the truth all the time, the people that don't use scare tactics to sell jobs, the people that don't try to manipulate others, etc....... These are people that deserve to be called Industry Leaders, not just someone that a person wants other people to call an industry leader because they are friends, have done deals together, have lied together, manipulated others, are part of groups together or other ulterior motive reasons together or other nonsense like that.

It just amazes me how a few guys out there want to call someone an Industry Leader when both of those guys don't have a lot of integrity between themselves and want other contractors out there to believe that one of those guys should be looked up to, respected, listened to like they have done something for the industry over the years.

When you see the truth, here on PWI over the years because vendors and distributors don't pay the bills here or manipulate the staff in any way, you will see the truth of people's integrity and how people help to spread the truth and expose the lies and B.S. that others out there are trying to spread like how some have been doing for many years and some possibly even decades or longer.

Here the lies and B.S. is not tolerated as the vendors don't pay the bills so they are not protected so they cannot lie to contractors, use scare tactics here or other B.S. to sell their stuff because they will be called out on it and the best part.........contractors calling them out on their B.S. are not banned for telling the truth or exposing someone or a vendor when done the right way, this telling the truth, exposing others or other ways of helping spread the truth will get you banned on other sites out there.
 
"Industry Leaders" hahahahahahaha that is a good one! hahahahaha

There are a few guys calling people they kiss butt to "Industry Leaders" like clucking chickens thinking everyone out there will also call them "Industry Leaders". hahahahaha

It amazes me how much people will kiss other peoples' butts for attention, to start threads and other useless nonsense just in hopes that other contractors out there will also start calling those people "Industry Leaders". hahahahaha

Industry Leader is something people call others out of respect, what those people have done to HELP THE INDUSTRY over the years, what those people have done to help contractors, those people that have integrity, the people that don't lie to the industry, the people that tell the truth all the time, the people that don't use scare tactics to sell jobs, the people that don't try to manipulate others, etc....... These are people that deserve to be called Industry Leaders, not just someone that a person wants other people to call an industry leader because they are friends, have done deals together, have lied together, manipulated others, are part of groups together or other ulterior motive reasons together or other nonsense like that.

It just amazes me how a few guys out there want to call someone an Industry Leader when both of those guys don't have a lot of integrity between themselves and want other contractors out there to believe that one of those guys should be looked up to, respected, listened to like they have done something for the industry over the years.

When you see the truth, here on PWI over the years because vendors and distributors don't pay the bills here or manipulate the staff in any way, you will see the truth of people's integrity and how people help to spread the truth and expose the lies and B.S. that others out there are trying to spread like how some have been doing for many years and some possibly even decades or longer.

Here the lies and B.S. is not tolerated as the vendors don't pay the bills so they are not protected so they cannot lie to contractors, use scare tactics here or other B.S. to sell their stuff because they will be called out on it and the best part.........contractors calling them out on their B.S. are not banned for telling the truth or exposing someone or a vendor when done the right way, this telling the truth, exposing others or other ways of helping spread the truth will get you banned on other sites out there.

BINgO!!!! Was his name 'O'


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