Confined space. HELP!!

FullBlast

New member
Does anyone know much about working in confined space??

I read a few post about it in relation to hood cleaning.

My question is... I guess I don't know.

Do you actually take a test and get certified?
How long does that take?
Can you hire a confined space certified personell for temporary??

If you know much about this please call me ASAP.

I have a big job that is pending...
717-491-4178 is my cell.

Thanks!!
 

Ron Musgraves

Exterior Restoration Specialist
Staff member
For 860 Hot & Migty is having and April Show with this type of training.

Chris is Texas had this type of certification, he has been real busy you might pick the phone up.
 

Big Mike

Member
Jay,
Theres' a lot of safety reg's for this type of work. In my former life I had the training for confined spaces work. OSHA courses, certificates, etc. You need supplied air, extraction devices, air quality sensors, and on, and on. If you aren't set up for this, I'd pass on the work. It can be done, but if you're in a hurry, forget it.
 

FullBlast

New member
Thanks guys.

This may be a on going project is why I want to get on it and stay on it.
other than that I would let it go!!

$$$:)
 

Clean Shingles

New member
YOU NEED AIR TANKS !!!!!

Not only for what your cleaning with, but what your cleaning out. People die very very fast in tanks:angel:

If not regulated tanks you need a fresh air supply hose to a mask.
 

Clean Shingles

New member
Tank cleaning death today in Nashville, They have not pulled him out of the tank yet but you don't leave a live person in a tank for an hour after rescue arrives, Just saw it on the news.
 

Lou hoods&more

New member
Does anyone know much about working in confined space??

I read a few post about it in relation to hood cleaning.

My question is... I guess I don't know.

Do you actually take a test and get certified?
How long does that take?
Can you hire a confined space certified personell for temporary??

If you know much about this please call me ASAP.

I have a big job that is pending...
717-491-4178 is my cell.

Thanks!!
Yes I took a test.
 

steve rose

New member
We got our training on site video,test,lots of paper work on recovery plan,osha,air monit.The hardest part was getting past the head safte.y guy.We clean large pits approx.18 ft.round and about 80 ft.down something different to clean.The only thing i dont like about it is we always have 3 to 5 people leaning over watching the person in the pit
 

FullBlast

New member
No not in Aberdeen.

So Steve was it a just a self learn type of thing or did someone come out and give the class?
 

Big Mike

Member
was it a just a self learn type of thing or did someone come out and give the class

The course is given by an approved instructor. All OSHA courses require an instructor, and none are "self learn". Do a google search and you'll find certified trainers with classes in your area. I would advise you to see if your particular situation requires this extensive training or not. There are different types of confined spaces 1-permitted confined spaces, 2-non-permitted confined spaces. Here's the definition for you:

"Many workplaces contain spaces that are considered "confined" because their configurations hinder the activities of employees who must enter, work in, and exit them. A confined space has limited or restricted means for entry or exit, and it is not designed for continuous employee occupancy. Confined spaces include, but are not limited to underground vaults, tanks, storage bins, manholes, pits, silos, process vessels, and pipelines.
OSHA uses the term "permit-required confined space" (permit space) to describe a confined space that has one or more of the following characteristics: contains or has the potential to contain a hazardous atmosphere; contains a material that has the potential to engulf an entrant; has walls that converge inward or floors that slope downward and taper into a smaller area which could trap or asphyxiate an entrant; or contains any other recognized safety or health hazard, such as unguarded machinery, exposed live wires, or heat stress"..
 

Christopher

Moderator
Something serious as confined space is never a self-learn, it is always a class by certified instructors.

Depending on how many in the crew to do the job, if anyone has this type of training, who will be the competent person, etc....lots and lots of things to think about.

Way too much stuff to type here about the training, ongoing work, etc....

Jay, pm me or give me a call and I will talk to you about it or you can call Guy B, he also has a ton of experience in confined space.

Figure that you will probably have a hole watch, bottle person (both are dedicated jobs, they don't do anything else and do not leave their post without having someone relieve them that is also trained and certified in that job), few guys in the tank working, a person to watch over the site continuously (not leaving to go do other jobs) the size of the crew can easily be from 6 to 12 guys depending on the size and scope of the job.

Things this serious are taken very serious and if you accidentally mess up or someone leaves their post and someone sees that, you and your crew are usually escorted off site to not return as that company or corp can get in serious trouble with OSHA besides you for allowing your company to be slack in your proceduress.

You have to call around and see who in your area provides this type of training and certification, see how many days it will be for your whole crew and how much it will cost you (not only for the class and certification but you are paying your people hourly or salary to sit there in class for days for this while on the clock).

Feel free to give me or Guy B. a call and we can talk to you about this stuff.
 

FullBlast

New member
I did not think it would be self learning, but couldn't find what I was looking for.

Thanks for the help.

I have found out a bunch of info today and am going to meet with a guy here in a few minutes that has had experience in doing what I am looking to do.

We shall see...

Thanks!!!!
 

schrec

New member
Mike Rowe on dirty jobs was Pw a tank. He was at a brewery. I forget if he had a respirator
 

steve rose

New member
No they have in house training. It was free for us. We do have to provide our own air monitor and have the calibration certificate. They have a fresh air supply in the bottom for us. They also have their own fire/rescue so we would have to let them know we are there. It takes about a day and half for us.We have to redo each year. They dont mess around they have more safety people out there than you can imagine which is a good thing.
 
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